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    Is this a true statement? Or are they no worse than Wallabies and Springboks?

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    Of course its not true. All of the black people I know are relatively normal people, and are not any more violent than any of the white people I know.
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    Many exude a tough imagine, but I think its from generations of being kicked down and put out, and this is a front saying "not anymore." No, what a nonsensical question, blacks are just as human as you, I, or anyone else in this world.

    EDIT: Yes, Yes they are. Destroy them. ;)
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    Perhaps this will help:

    The All Blacks (capital letters important)

    It's a violent game and New Zealand tend to play within the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    Is this a true statement? Or are they no worse than Wallabies and Springboks?


    False.
    Even the claim that all humans can be violent or even the claim that all blacks can be violent are false.
    Edit: Hm I knew that I should've done a search on Wallabies and Springboks
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    Just to make it clear for anybody who is drawn to this thread by the somewhat ambivalent (but not inaccurate with regard to the actual topic) thread title.

    This is not about racial issues - so pleaase do not use this thread to discuss racial issues (such posts will be removed at the moderators' discretion).

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    I haka say that this thread needs a pun.
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    Interesting. People assumed it was a racial issue, despite the clues...
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    I see what you did there...
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    No...
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    Springboks and wallabies - you know what they're famous for? For jumping up as high as they can in the face of danger.

    Unlike the blues. If the all blacks, those embracers of thug culture, think they can use their dirty tricks on the blues they're wrong. All the French rugby players are drawn from just ten départements, in the South and South-west. Not the civilised, refined France. But from the rough country. Basques and Catalans too – tough mountain dwellers.
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    The haka (<--vid link) they perform, pre-game, suggests violence, but it doesn't look any worse than other team-rousers used by many professional sports.

    American football teams often do a chant-thing just before kick-off, though rarely as a display aimed at the other team (more aimed at the TV camera, I think).
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    LMFAO that Aussie wasn't bothered one little bit. Did you see his face?
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    Wow... those French Rugby players really look like....Neanderthals. You should shave them to throw the opposing team off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamikhaan
    All of the black people I know are relatively normal people
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    The haka (<--vid link) they perform, pre-game, suggests violence, but it doesn't look any worse than other team-rousers used by many professional sports.
    Am I the only one who thinks the captain in that video (can't remember his name) looks like this guy?

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    The haka has become part of the All Blacks pre match spectacle:Haka Wiki

    The All Blacks themselves:All Blacks Wiki
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    Haka is something that is part of NZ culture and heritage. The haka the All Blacks used to perform dates back to 1810. The new one however was composed just a few years ago specifically for the team. I guess it is kind of hard for people to understand when they don't really know anything about Maori culture.

    There was one Newspaper article I remember from quite a few years back where the British were complaining about the haka being performed and so the article suggested the British maybe adopt something from their past, like morris dancing.

    But seriously, there is no reason to think that they are more violent or that they are thugs, where is proof of this? Unless you want to link to that bloody stupid article about one of them hitting the other with some lady's hand bag and telling him to watch his behavior. Hardly assault or brutish behavior but the media tried to make it out like a scandal.

    Just because we're from a "rugged" country doesn't mean we're apes.


    EDIT: Ah, Papewaio just beat me to it
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    I think it is all a joke, Hepcat.

    Everybody loves the haka, it is one of world sports great traditions.

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    Good grief! Those rugby players are scary. More so than american football players, because you can't run away like you could a 350 lb linebacker.

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    Yeah Louis, I know you're all mostly joking but I just felt obliged to explain it. I also felt the need to point out that we weren't apes because of one English girl at my school who said living here is like living on planet of the apes and all she ever does is rant about how much better England is than NZ and I'd never realised people perceive us that way until then.

    So it's not a lecture directed at anyone here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit


    Good grief! Those rugby players are scary. More so than american football players, because you can't run away like you could a 350 lb linebacker.

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    Since when did linebackers weigh 350 lbs? Heck, most of them don't even hit 260 lbs. And if you watch football, a lot of them are actually quite athletic. Certainly more so than your average Joe Schmoe, anyways.
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    Hyperbole=exaggeration for comic effect.

    My point is that they don't run around all the time; they get loads of breaks between short bursts of speed. Yes, they are very good at what they do, but they aren't distance or endurance runners, and I do run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonArchangel
    Wow... those French Rugby players really look like....Neanderthals.
    I dunno, I think they look more the way you would expect your Total War elite units to look if you ever ran into them at a Starbucks.


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    They're pretty violent. Amazing, but violent. Great players, all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat
    Haka is something that is part of NZ culture and heritage. The haka the All Blacks used to perform dates back to 1810. The new one however was composed just a few years ago specifically for the team. I guess it is kind of hard for people to understand when they don't really know anything about Maori culture.

    There was one Newspaper article I remember from quite a few years back where the British were complaining about the haka being performed and so the article suggested the British maybe adopt something from their past, like morris dancing.

    But seriously, there is no reason to think that they are more violent or that they are thugs, where is proof of this? Unless you want to link to that bloody stupid article about one of them hitting the other with some lady's hand bag and telling him to watch his behavior. Hardly assault or brutish behavior but the media tried to make it out like a scandal.

    Just because we're from a "rugged" country doesn't mean we're apes.


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    And to think that what appears in Lord of the Rings must also be a kind of Haka then. The Uruk-Hai war chant before the battle of Helms Deep starts is a Maori war chant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Hyperbole=exaggeration for comic effect.

    My point is that they don't run around all the time; they get loads of breaks between short bursts of speed. Yes, they are very good at what they do, but they aren't distance or endurance runners, and I do run.

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