Out of character thread XIV

[Stig]

As I said in the Franconian thread:

Edict 13.1:
The Franconian Household Armies are authorized to conquer the city of Antwerp and the city of Krakow from our mutual enemies. On conquest of the mentioned cities, they are immediately given to the House of Franconia, by will of Emperor Siegfried.
Proposed: Kaiser Siegfried
Seconded: Prinz Elberhard, Jan von Hamburg

Krakow is Franconian ... or was

[OverKnight]

Krakow is imperial, it was promised but never assigned AFAIK. Moot point mostly.

Edmund Becker is in Prague, different city, which is Austrian. Has been since 1100 or so. Austria's second city.

[Stig]

Krakow is imperial, it was promised but never assigned AFAIK. Moot point mostly.

From the Edict it was automatically assigned, but as you said, that's beside the point now anyway

[Tamur]

...My concern here is achieving a fair balance for everyone...

Why does everything have to be fair? My parents spent a lot of time teaching me that life isn't fair!



As far as the changes go, that makes better sense to me. Fritz will be happy to contribute his fair share to the cause of Franconia.

[Privateerkev]

TC: Let me see if I have this clear:

1.) Dukes/King get 3 points for every city and 1 point for every castle that is not sieged and has a clear line of communication.

2.) If there is a loyal count of a settlement. That Count will get 3 if it is a city and 1 if it is a castle.

3.) In addition, 1 point will move from the Duke to the Count. Giving a Duke 2 for a city with a loyal count and 4 for the loyal count. This would give a loyal count +5 if he is in the territory.

How am I doing?

As for Krackow/Prague, there seems to be some confusion.

1.) Krackow was in an edict at the last Diet to be taken and gifted to Franconia.

2.) Austria took it and left it. It is legally Franconian.

3.) Ansehelm has stated that he plans to take Prague on the basis that it is Franconian.

4.) But Prague is Austrian. (or was but now it's independent)

[TinCow]

TC: Let me see if I have this clear:

1.) Dukes/King get 3 points for every city and 1 point for every castle that is not sieged and has a clear line of communication.

2.) If there is a loyal count of a settlement. That Count will get 3 if it is a city and 1 if it is a castle.

3.) In addition, 1 point will move from the Duke to the Count. Giving a Duke 2 for a city with a loyal count and 4 for the loyal count. This would give a loyal count +5 if he is in the territory.

How am I doing?

1) Correct
2&3) Wrong. The Count gets 1 if it is a city and 1 if it is a castle. He gets his money by diverting 1 from the Duke's income. It is not additional income. Thus, a city with a loyal Count will generate 1 for the Count and 2 for the Duke. A castle with a loyal Count will generate 1 for the Count and 0 for the Duke.

[Stig]

As for Krackow/Prague, there seems to be some confusion.

1.) Krackow was in an edict at the last Diet to be taken and gifted to Franconia.

2.) Austria took it and left it. It is legally Franconian.

3.) Ansehelm has stated that he plans to take Prague on the basis that it is Franconian.

4.) But Prague is Austrian. (or was but now it's independent)

How about:
Stig is a blithering idiot and mixed them up, bloody Polish cities. Put Warsaw in and I'm gone entirely.

Mind you tho. Becker did have the option to attack Krakow if I'm correct

[Privateerkev]

TC:

Alright,

I like it.

Dukes/King will still get an excess income but they will have more of an incentive to "spread the wealth" to keep the counts loyal.

Stig: Becker had the option to attack Breslau but you don't know that IC. And you definitely don't know what option he picked. TC was just trying to show what options people had.

[Stig]

Becker had the option to attack Breslau but you don't know that IC. And you definitely don't know what option he picked. TC was just trying to show what options people had.

I know, but he had Krakow in as well. Hence why I mixed up Krakow with Prague