5 Hurt in School Shooting

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21224357/



Sad

[Devastatin Dave]

Well, I'd give him an F or an incomplete. 5 wounded and the only death is yourself? What a loser.

[Marshal Murat]

*looks around*

Where is Crazed Rabbit?

Oh wait, here he comes....

[drone]

Well, I'd give him an F or an incomplete. 5 wounded and the only death is yourself? What a loser.

No doubt. A black day for disgruntled, gun-toting Americans everywhere.

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[Ronin]

Well, I'd give him an F or an incomplete. 5 wounded and the only death is yourself? What a loser.

well that just goes to show....

you have the right to bear arms...or arm bears or whatever...

but that doesn´t mean you can shoot straight

[drone]

If you are going to go postal, you do it like the Wisconsin deputy did a few days ago. 6 killed, and then 3 shots to head for the suicide.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/10/wis...ing/index.html

It's too early in the school year for this kind of crap. The pressure is supposed to build up over the whole term, culminating in the rampage around prom or finals. Obviously the lack of cold, focused, rage affected his aim.



*disclaimer - I, in no way, support or condone shooting sprees. They only lead to more restrictive knee-jerk gun laws that do nothing to solve the underlying problem. I also have nothing but the utmost respect for our US Postal Service employees, no offense is meant.

[Crazed Rabbit]

*looks around*

Where is Crazed Rabbit?

Oh wait, here he comes....

Hello there.

Let's take a look at the info:

Student Doneisha LeVert, who hid in a closet with two other students after she heard a "Code Blue" alert over the loudspeaker, said the shooter had threatened students Friday.

"He's crazy. He threatened to blow up our school. He threatened to stab everybody," she said.

Good job with taking preemptive action...or not.

Did you know recently a cop in Wisconsin killed 6 people after getting dumped by his girlfriend? How can you support those 'kill-bot factories' known as police academies?*

CR

*In jest.

[Boyar Son]

Again!?!?!?!?!

well ever since virginia tech school shooting havent been getting much attention...


btw I know some people "like" that too. ussually emo but one I know and I am friend with.

I am guaranteed to be spared in the future.

[Strike For The South]

Im not surprised and every time one of these happens I care less and less

[Tribesman]

Good job with taking preemptive action...or not.

Well to be fair he didn't stab everybody or blow up the school so the pre emtive strike of kcking him out of school certainly worked on that account

[Lord Winter]

well ever since virginia tech school shooting havent been getting much attention...

Its not like there's been anyothers. I have to agree with the again, 2 in a year seems like to many

btw I know some people "like" that too. ussually emo but one I know and I am friend with.

I am guaranteed to be spared in the future.

You do relize that most emo kids arn't sucidal manics right? Its more the loners that you need to watch out for.

[Samurai Waki]

Congratulations! We're Now Installing A Free Chip in every person that prevents you from doing harm to yourself or anyone else. This of course will be mandatory during any background checks and/or Licensing.

ah. Welcome to the Glorious Future.

[naut]

Im not surprised and every time one of these happens I care less and less

I got the same feeling.

[Husar]

AFAIK suspension isn't kicking him out Tribes but I'd say if someone already has a lot of problems, creating more problems for him without locking him up is quite counterproductive.

Well done.

[Tribesman]

AFAIK suspension isn't kicking him out Tribes but I'd say if someone already has a lot of problems, creating more problems for him without locking him up is quite counterproductive.

But they had locked him up , they also had put him in care , on probation , through therapy and on drugs to treat his mental disorder .

[Watchman]

What, the rampage season starts early this year or something ?

[Innocentius]

Mm... the right to bear arms... mm... (drools)

[Husar]

But they had locked him up , they also had put him in care , on probation , through therapy and on drugs to treat his mental disorder .

Didn't get that from the link in the OP. If you're right, they obviously failed.

[Tribesman]

Mm... the right to bear arms... mm... (drools)

forget the guns , it is kids who like wearing trenchcoats that are the problem .

edit to add...

Didn't get that from the link in the OP. If you're right, they obviously failed.

try the local and state newspapers .

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

forget the guns , it is kids who like wearing trenchcoats that are the problem .

edit to add...
try the local and state newspapers .

Extacly Tribes. Guns aren't the ones who killing people. It's just a tool Kids get their hands on to put holes in people heads.

It could have been worse at Colombine, because if those Bombs went off in the Cafternia... THe Bar would have been raised alot higher for someone to outdo them.


But Yea, More and more... I just happen to care less. I mean, It's sad that kids get shot and injured in this case, but after since 99, it seems like School shootings been going up and well, if I hear one on the news, I hurry and turn CNN/MSNBC on just so I can see how many people died, and see how well it will turn out to be in a nice talk here at .org.

[Tribesman]

Extacly Tribes. Guns aren't the ones who killing people. It's just a tool Kids get their hands on to put holes in people heads.

Yes it isn't guns , its suicidal nutcases with guns who get upset when they lose a fight .
Though of course he may have had a bit of a problem shooting people with an axe .

[Innocentius]

forget the guns , it is kids who like wearing trenchcoats that are the problem .

Let me put it like this: How many people can a homocidal maniac kill with a trenchcoat, and how many people can a homocidal maniac kill with a gun?

Guns don't kill people, people kill people (using guns).

[Husar]

Let me put it like this: How many people can a homocidal maniac kill with a trenchcoat, and how many people can a homocidal maniac kill with a gun?

If he quietly strangles them with the trenchcoat he can porbably kill more because noone will be alarmed.

[woad&fangs]

The article seemed to put a lot of emphasis on him being goth. It mentioned how he was dressed 3 times. Whatever, I've lost interest in these sort of things. Horrible people will always find ways to harm others. It isn't going to end any time soon.

[naut]

I'd have to say the security is at fault here firstly. Secondly the fact they knew he was aggressive and socially awkward and yet did nothing.

In this case guns aren't the problem, it's the failure to learn from previous events that's the problem.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Yes it isn't guns , its suicidal nutcases with guns who get upset when they lose a fight .
Though of course he may have had a bit of a problem shooting people with an axe .

But Can you kill someone with a Axe? Yes


Or Kill Someone with a Sword.............

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21253029/

[Tribesman]

But Can you kill someone with a Axe? Yes

True , but that wouldn't be a school shooting would it , since there have been60 school shootings in the last decade can you provide any evidence of school axings to make a comparrison .

[caravel]

But Can you kill someone with a Axe? Yes


Or Kill Someone with a Sword.............

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21253029/

Or a kitchen knife or a spade, or a screwdriver for that matter. You could even kill them with your bare hands, that's not the point. The point is that a gun, unlike the aformentioned implements, is actually a lethal, often concealable, ranged, rapid firing high velocity projectile weapon, that is actually fundamentally designed to kill people or animals.

A person that goes on the rampage with a knife can be pinned down and disarmed and is only a threat to the people in his/her immediate vicinity, a gunman is quite obviously something else altogether. The issue is not simply the risk of "madmen" getting their hands on a gun either. Any individual that is otherwise sound of mind can simply lose control in certain circumstances, having a gun handy at such a time could prove fatal to both the individual concerned and others. If you hear noises in your house at night you may think you've been broken into and shoot the intruder dead in a panic. When the intruder turns out to be your husband/wife/son/daughter/father/mother that had got up during the night for whatever reason, it would probably change your ideas about gun ownership and availability somewhat.

IMHO guns have no place in any civilised society. If a particular community gets to the stage where it's residents feel compelled to bear any kind of arms for their own protection then there's obviously something else fundamentally wrong with it.

[Whacker]

Or a kitchen knife or a spade, or a screwdriver for that matter. You could even kill them with your bare hands, that's not the point. The point is that a gun, unlike the aformentioned implements, is actually a lethal, often concealable, ranged, rapid firing high velocity projectile weapon, that is actually fundamentally designed to kill people or animals.

So are bows/crossbows and arrows. I mean, those were fundamentally designed to kill animals and people, right? Look what those horrid Mongols did with them hundreds of years ago, I'm surprised we haven't all banned those yet.

A person that goes on the rampage with a knife can be pinned down and disarmed and is only a threat to the people in his/her immediate vicinity, a gunman is quite obviously something else altogether.

I call bull and strawman. Someone who knows how to use a knife is going to be just as dangerous if not moreso deadly than someone with a gun. A gun has a finite number of bullets, and one can only carry so many clips. A person with a knife and a reasonable amount of skill has a weapon just as deadly that doesn't require reloading. And the part about "blocking" or "disarming" is utter bunk. I don't care if you get 4 football linemen to charge someone wielding a razor sharp axe, but at least one of them is going to get seriously maimed/injured/outright killed. The same goes for a proficient martial artist with a knife or other stabbing/slashing weapon, in fact it'd probably just about impossible to disarm him physically without several people getting outright killed/wounded. People are shot all the time and live to tell about, some even with head wounds and other vital places. Saying a gun is by definition more deadly or "easy" to use is tripe. I'm going to make a guess by your statements that you've both never handled a gun before, nor have you taken any kind of martial art.

The issue is not simply the risk of "madmen" getting their hands on a gun either. Any individual that is otherwise sound of mind can simply lose control in certain circumstances, having a gun handy at such a time could prove fatal to both the individual concerned and others.

So would having a pocketknife. Guess we should ban those too. You'd have to be trying REAL hard to kill someone with a .22 or a lower calibre gun, whereas if I had a 1" bladed knife, unless one know some serious martial arts, I and a few others on this forum could kill a normal individual quite easily. On second thought let's ban martial arts to, because the only purpose of those is to kill, amirite?

If you hear noises in your house at night you may think you've been broken into and shoot the intruder dead in a panic. When the intruder turns out to be your husband/wife/son/daughter/father/mother that had got up during the night for whatever reason, it would probably change your ideas about gun ownership and availability somewhat.

Strawman again. Hundreds of accidents like this happen all the time, compared to millions of people who own firearms and never have this kind of problem. Common sense is in order here, and it's more common than people think it to be. The people who've killed family members in this manner are perfect examples of people who've not exercised this.

IMHO guns have no place in any civilised society. If a particular community gets to the stage where it's residents feel compelled to bear any kind of arms for their own protection then there's obviously something else fundamentally wrong with it.

VIOLENT CRIME has no place in civilized society, you're purposefully singling out firearms for this as a scapegoat, which in terms of human history are a new invention. Mankind has been violent all throughout it's past, and will continue to be so for all time. People have slaughtered eachother constantly using whatever means they could get their hands on, bladed weapons, bows, fire, whatever, they use it. Singling out firearms as "enablement" is again pure tripe, it's no easier, harder, more or less deadly than any other personal weapon we've been using for the past millenia.

[Ronin]

I call bull and strawman. Someone who knows how to use a knife is going to be just as dangerous if not moreso deadly than someone with a gun. A gun has a finite number of bullets, and one can only carry so many clips. A person with a knife and a reasonable amount of skill has a weapon just as deadly that doesn't require reloading. And the part about "blocking" or "disarming" is utter bunk. I don't care if you get 4 football linemen to charge someone wielding a razor sharp axe, but at least one of them is going to get seriously maimed/injured/outright killed. The same goes for a proficient martial artist with a knife or other stabbing/slashing weapon, in fact it'd probably just about impossible to disarm him physically without several people getting outright killed/wounded. People are shot all the time and live to tell about, some even with head wounds and other vital places. Saying a gun is by definition more deadly or "easy" to use is tripe. I'm going to make a guess by your statements that you've both never handled a gun before, nor have you taken any kind of martial art.

are you telling me that an average person with a gun is no more dangerous than an average person with a knife? (and I mean average in like not a special forces commando that was trained to kill an entire batallion with a knife....you know most people don´t have those skills).

then it´s me who´s calling bull.