First Impressions of EB 1.0?

[naut]

Do you have to reinstall RTW and then install EB, because if so I don't think I could be bothered. Would deleting the EB folder and then installing EB suffice?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Do you have to reinstall RTW and then install EB, because if so I don't think I could be bothered. Would deleting the EB folder and then installing EB suffice?

Yes. To quote abou "bad things will happen" (CTD's, weird bugs etc.) if you don't.

Main reason is that 0.81a had more leftovers in the base RTW\Data folder than 1.0 has. That may interferre with the workings of 1.0.

Hence simply deleting the EB folder WILL NOT suffice. If you won't to de-install EB quickly you could check my guide. (Shameless self-promotion alert! )

Anyhow you will find that the new installer is a LOT faster than previous versions... So it won't be a real pain.

Alternatively you can just copy a back up of RTW 1.5 (if you had any) to a new location; and install 1.0 on top of that one.

[Lovejoy]

LOVE IT!

The new camp-map is fantastic! The new sweboz units are fantastic! Everything is fantastic!!!

And I reeeeeally LOVE that new loading screen with the Galatikoi Kleruchois slaughtering does selue Pantodapoi Phalangitai. Is there more loading screens like it?

Now I cant remember his nick, but the guy who painted it(and much more), he is great. EB most be very happy to have him!

[mighty_rome]

First let me say that RTW with EB is one of the best games I have ever played. I have spent hundreds of hours playing it and I never get tired of it, because it is one of the deepest games out there.

I do have to say that I am a little concerned about some of the unit stats in 1.0 though. It appears Samnite Heavy Infantry have been seriously weakened (defense went from 28 to 20, I believe). Also, the elite Roman infantry just isn't in the same class as that of the other factions. Cohors Praetoriana are far weaker than elite units from virtually all other factions. And, some Carthaginian heavy infantry have been weakened considerably too. Dorkim Aloopim and Cohors Imperatoria just seem average.

I just want to know why some units that seemingly should be very powerful have been weakened, while others were left untouched. The Hellenistic elites are still incredibly powerful...Thorakitai Agema are virtually invincible yet they cost basically the same amount as the now-average Cohors Praetoriana. it just seems unbalanced to me. I was very happy with the unit stats in EB 0.81. Given the stats the Seleucids have now, they seem invincible compared to the Romans, and we all know they weren't.

[Tellos Athenaios]

On the other hand, a praetorian cohort is quite large for an elite unit...

[mighty_rome]

Yeah, and they still lose to other smaller sized units. That's the problem. I just thought they should be at least an equal, or close to an equal, of some of the other elites.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Yeah, and they still lose to other smaller sized units. That's the problem. I just thought they should be at least an equal, or close to an equal, of some of the other elites.

They better well do. They are basically men from the legion who've distinguised themselves as particularly loyal. They are not the best soldiers among the ranks per se; as are most other elite corpses.

AFAIK they only lose yield to two/three other infantry units: Vasci shock infantry & Seleukid equivalent. The third would be the Irish equivalent of the Vasci.

[The Celtic Viking]

My first impression from the strat map was that they ground looked a little strange, but the sea... wow. Beutiful. To have reflections of clouds drifting by instead of just blue is a great visual improvement there. Now the ground feels fine though, so perhaps it's nothing, really. But it was my first impression! :D

My first impression of the tac map is the horns... beutiful. Sexy. Love it. But the lighting mod thing is a little bit too dark. I don't like that (but of course I can live with it).

I haven't played much yet, but overall it feels great. I'm looking forward to seeing my new, fresh stonewalls in action - something I've waited for ever since I first heard about that, and that was a long time ago.

[mighty_rome]

Yeah, the strat map is much better. I love the improvements to the water and the land textures. I haven't had a chance to really get into a campaign yet but so far I'd rate this release maybe a 9.2 out of 10. My only concern was some unit stat changes I previously mentioned. (Elephants only have 2 hp too... I think they may need a few more.)

I know I am new to this forum but I've been playing EB for years and have always thoroughly enjoyed it.

[Cadwalader]

Prehistoric music shall be mine.

[Foot]

Yeah, the strat map is much better. I love the improvements to the water and the land textures. I haven't had a chance to really get into a campaign yet but so far I'd rate this release maybe a 9.2 out of 10. My only concern was some unit stat changes I previously mentioned. (Elephants only have 2 hp too... I think they may need a few more.)

I know I am new to this forum but I've been playing EB for years and have always thoroughly enjoyed it.

Whilst you may be concerned with stat changes, we are not. We have a very complex system to determine stats for each unit, and a very capable member in charge of it. If those changes have been made it must have been for good reasons, and they reflect the equipment, training and other information that the historians give. We don't have any evidence of what the outcome was when 100 Praetorians met 100 Thorakitai, so we use the evidence that we do know of the individual units and ensure balancing by applying that same system to every unit. If the praetorians die so easily (something that I certainly haven't seen happening, and no other member has deemed worthy to mention) then it is because the stats are correct not because they are wrong.

Foot

[Goth47]

But the lighting mod thing is a little bit too dark. I don't like that (but of course I can live with it).

No Need to worry about the lighting, we have 3 other lighting files available so people can customize the lighting to their own tastes, we merely used the lighting file voted as the most popular as the default.
Here is a link to 4 Lighting files we created at EB ranging from dark(the default) to light.
choose the descr_battle_map_lighting_and_fog_control file you want to choose and paste it into the EB\data folder , you should find one you like

http://hosted.filefront.com/Goth47/

Goth

[name]

I have not played much, but I'm sorry, but there are two things that horribly disturb me:
AI turns take too long and the Costum Battles are broken.
There are some nice gimmicks, but the clouds in the water are somehow making it a bit laggy here.
But for me the long turns ruin everything, I'm not a patient person and this makes it nearly impossible for me to play.
Otherwise good work, but well, you know, I think there are a bit too many scripts running in background now ^^^

[blacksnail]

the Costum Battles are broken.

Do you mean that the selected faction's units do not usually appear in the list? If so, this is because of the way RTW reads in the units for the campaign game. There is a specific "Custom Battle EDU" - a file which removes all the seemingly extraneous units from the campaign game list - and I think somebody on the boards already created a batch file which allows you to switch back and forth depending on whether you're doing a Custom Battle or the campaign game.

But for me the long turns ruin everything, I'm not a patient person and this makes it nearly impossible for me to play.
Otherwise good work, but well, you know, I think there are a bit too many scripts running in background now ^^^

I agree that the lag is really intense. One of the things I'm working on for the next release is optimization to really cut down on the time for the AI turns.

Note that there are ways to speed up the AI turn lag. Some friendly soul may be able to provide you with a link to some of the tips people have come up with.

Thanks very much for your feedback! I also want to say that this is the kind of constructive criticism that really helps us improve the mod.

[Fearless Samnite]

I began my journey with the romani in EB 1.0 in the land of ecstasy. First season i put taxes at very high, and put one Rorarii in each of my settlements as a garrison. Second Season, i made peace with the Aedui and forced tribute of 5k for 2 seasons, and stacked all my generals together and fought off the first wave of Epeiros as i plowed through them with tact and sheer solid hooves and spears. Another Season rolled on by and i besieged an Epeiros settlement on my mainland, all i had was my generals...they thought i was small and easy prey. I also made peace with Arverni and forced tribute of 10k. I demolished all temples in my settlements and placed mars priority as my capitol and juno as all my other settlements. My First priority was Growth with no governors, Second money, but while i was doing that i signed construction orders for my next barracks upgrade so i could recruit Pedites Extraordinarii and amass legions of them too attack north. Another season rolled by, Epeiros sallied forth from their settlement and i quickly crushed them from both sides as they marched out of their gates with calavry charge after charge sometimes forming a circle around an emerging enemy only to charge to the center....heroic battle after heroic battle.....my proud yet old leader was quickly making waves politically and wealth as he massacred rebel province and enemy provinces alike. After i crushed the following rebel province, i was declared imperious (sp) by my men! My leader and his grouped generals of his family carved a bloody path with the same method. They always sallied and i always conquered them the next turn. Then it was i and KartHadastim, head to head...first i stepped on Sicily, provoking them to betray us. Our great destiny was at hand! I besiged and destroyed the sallying army of both rebel cities and then crushed the first wave of KartHadastim. Their City fell soon after, All acomplished so far but nothing then our proud family members and generals. At this point i was creating a great network of trade agreements for the future of the republic. Years passed, my construction of an upgraded barracks at my capital finished and i began amassing legions of Pedites Extraordinarii. Meanwhile Me and my family members board ships and set sail to the isles of KartHadastim....

the game crashed after 6 hours of non stop gameplay
played on:

Romani
Very Hard Campaign
Medium Battle (only because units were meant to be coded this way :P )


im going back to my conquest of an ancient world to change history!

[Sakkura]

I finally got EB1.0 running too!

First impression: I started up a campaign as Pahlava, who I have never tried before. I just had to see the intro video, which is pretty neat stuff. Would be great if every faction eventually got one.
Their starting position is nasty by the way. I didn't expect to get bushwacked by a big stack of Eleutheroi horse archers that wiped the floor with an army of like 90% of my forces.

Next I think I'll go check out KH, to see what all this agoge and stuff is about. Man, there's so much cool new stuff to explore!

[Beefy187]

Just to see the intro I went for Pahlava. Then I changed my mind soon as the game loaded and moved to Casse. Casse is alot harder now. Ill eventually have to work out diffrent tactic. Those rebel army are quite tough and my Casse general seems even weeker then before.

I then tried Makedon after getting pwned in my Casse campeign. 2 turns after I captured Athens I got PLAGUED. Athens had one uber Thracian/Hellenic family member in it. 17 year old and his already the best administrater in my family getting plagued.. I hope he doesnt die on me.

[Umnir]

I have been so hungry to play 1.0, but I have other awesome games on queue. :(

Well, some day... :)

[mlc82]

I have been so hungry to play 1.0, but I have other awesome games on queue. :(

Well, some day... :)

I dropped a long running Civilization game just to start playing this one when it came out... I haven't been to bed before 3am at all during the last week ;)