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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldinger
    Yep, the BMI says that LaDanian Tomlinson(a great American Football player) is Obese but he can probably run a 40 yard dash in 4.3 seconds. On topic, people do have different metabolisms. I can eat like a pig and still maintain my 5'8'', 120 pound girlish figure.(O the joys of being 16 ) Most other people can't do that. So some people are genetically more prone to obesity but they can still avoid it by burning more calories than they take in. It is the same thing as cancer. Your genes can give you a high or low likelyhood of getting cancer but smoking a pack of cigarettes per day isn't going to do you any favors.
    A fellow 16 year old who doesn't put on much weight, eh?

    It's great, innit? I eat tonnes of crap, but typically remain around the 150lb mark, and am nearly 6ft tall. Oh, the joys of having a good metabolism. I survive on nothing but junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    ITS HIS SECOND LANGUAGE
    It's my second language as well and we can only learn more.

    I think pointing out mistakes just improves everybody's english skills but they're not the topic anyway.

    Watchman is right. It's mostly lifestyle and that people can afford to eat more.


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    Disease? Only if things like this are considered pathogens:
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    Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito — two egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese, hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla. The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.

    Brad Haley, marketing chief for the St. Louis-based fast-food chain, said the burrito offers the sort of big breakfast item normally found in sit-down restaurants with an added advantage.

    "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
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    Dunno about pathogenic, but it certainly sounds like some sort of crime. My arteries are deeply offended by the mere description.
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    Look at the healthy minister that was moaning about other peoples obesity isues this week http://www.progressivedemocrats.ie/u...y_AAA_0030.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Look at the healthy minister that was moaning about other peoples obesity isues this week http://www.progressivedemocrats.ie/u...y_AAA_0030.jpg
    LOL. It seems that people are truly unscrupulous when it comes to hypocresy.

    As for my mistake in the title, sorry for that. People have to understand that the language I speak natively has a different pronunciation of vocals, so to transform the words I write in english I try to remember exactly how any given letter is pronounced on the english alfabet, by principle I consider anything sounding like "ee" an "e", and I don't know why but I remembered the word "disease" sounding like "deesease" in my head. Thus sometimes I make stupid mistakes like that.
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    I saw a little of that program. Well, they also have rights! Or dont you agree?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca
    I saw a little of that program. Well, they also have rights! Or dont you agree?
    No I don't compa. I think that specific cases have other causes, meta-causes, i.e. obesity is not a disease but might be caused by other diseases. Of course there's posts here from authorities of this here Backroom, such as Watchman or Lemur who always force me to revise my posts and research what they're saying . But in general my opinion has not been changed.

    I think that our country, specially, has a lot more things to worry about than obesity, we don't live in a country, like the USA, which has serious obsity issues, obesity is marginal related to other issues, and those issues must recieve priority, I'll not support their cause, not even verbally, hell obese people have a more serious issue to worry about that I can sympathize with like discrimination on jobs, alas this issue includes the other one on some ways...
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    I think that our country, specially, has a lot more things to worry about than obesity, we don't live in a country, like the USA, which has serious obsity issues
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    I always wondered what it would be like to not to be able to see little devdav when i went to go potty. I guess, as a future American fat ass, I'll find out in a few years!!!

    Calling obesity a disease is like giving liposuction to anorexis as a cure.
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    I just happened to catch the headlines on Sky News here in Britain, and guess what - now they're blaming obesity on the environment. Load of codswollop.
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    Key is that obesity is different from simply being a little chubby. Some people will always remain the latter, and there isn't really any harm in it. The former however is a luxury problem for the larger part; sure, I can buy that some people are more predisposed to gaining a lot of weight, but I also know people who work hard to keep that weight down. What's the point in asking government to keep track of what people consume? It's a private responsibility; there are enough complaints about bureaucracy as it is, people should be perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. Unfortunately it would appear that too many aren't and rely on/blame others such as the government when the consequences become clearer.

    Last few times I've been to the UK I've been amazed at how fat people are getting. I don't remember it being like that years ago, and I certainly don't see that as much in Holland (though it's getting more noticeable).
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    It's a private responsibility
    Yeah, but, when you are obess, you cant control the amount of food you eat.




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    Such a large amount of people? Besides, it's not even just a matter of eating less as much as actually doing some kind of exercise.
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    If it's a simple failure of self-control, it's a simple failure of self-control. Don't eat way more than you use and need, as it were. Stuffing yourself with energy without expending much of it just leads to the excess being stored for future, the primary medium for which is fat tissue.

    That said, it is true that junk food tends to be kinda insidious. It's heavy on calories and carbohyrates and sugars and such on the average, and usually quite short of a variety of other nutritional elements the body requires. If the body can't get those, it'll keep telling the brain it's hungry and should eat more... and more junk food obviously doesn't fix the matter at all.

    And I'd be surprised if this was entirely coincidential.
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    I agree. Junkfood is an easy option, and in my opinion a thoroughly lazy one. Not only is it not nutricious, but also more expensive than actually cooking and it doesn't save that much time if one plans a little. Perhaps it's because of rowing I need to keep an eye on what I consume relative to what I do in a day, but buying fresh ingredients and cooking with them is far healthier and quite a bit cheaper than buying premade stuff.

    What I've really noticed in England in supermarkets is the sheer amount and variety of microwave meals available compared to Holland, where it's mostly just applicable to pizzas and stuff. I'll admit they look quite appealing, but it's quite shocking seeing how many shopping carts are filled with nothing but the stuff. There's a cause for obesity right there, and it's pure laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Not their fault. Some people are born fit, fantastic athletes, others are naturally a bit obese:

    Maradona have obesity by drugs.




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