Asia ton Barbaron disscusion thread

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

The Mauryans vs. the Baktrians will be an interesting fight, indeed.

And what if the Yellow Death go into India

won't happend IMHO.

**Moros** · 03-20-2009, 17:31

that's some nice work you've done Gamegeek2 and svramj!
Can't wait till the next preview!

**svramj** · 03-22-2009, 07:34

Thanks guys...I was quite busy for long...I'm back now...there are far more Indian units than those shown here...remember we've got 2 more Indian factions...

**Mithick666** · 03-22-2009, 07:39

hey great work team AtB congratulations

it will not be a minimod it will be a big mod

**svramj** · 03-22-2009, 08:06

Sorry of double posting...
For those who can't see the last three units above...

Azkaryasva Ksatriya (Ksatriya Heavy Cavalry)

We have not forgotten the lesson that Alakchandar taught us many years ago, and now we implement similar tactics and horse-armour, though we are very different soldiers from the Hetairoi. Instead of xista, we have single handed spears, far less powerful in a charge, but allowing a shield to be carried in the off-hand. Modified Kavcha protects our bodies, a Zirastraana helmet our head, and metal covers part of our legs. Our steeds too have armour, light scales draping over the sides, along with a bronze chest plate. Though as good at charging as the Yavana and Pahlava heavy horsemen, we can match them in staying power, our large shield making up for less armour.

Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands all Mauryan armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.

Rajakulapadaga (Royal Guards)

Rajan, your guard awaits. These men are mainly for countering elephants, though they are an excellent unit besides. Though their armour is heavy like that of the Pratradhaka, meaning their archery is slower, they make up for this with great skill. Arrows are a great deterrent to elephants, as number of wounds is far more important against elephants than the quality of those wounds; the beasts dislike injury comparably. Besides this, they can fight as heavy spearmen.

Historically, they came into existence right during the Seleucid-Mauryan wars, but were used well only during Asoka's Kalinga War. Where they fought, they took down most enemy elephants, ensuring victory for the Mauryans. However, these all-rounders they were few in number, and could use bows, javelins, spears and swords. They used their bows and accompanied their king on the elephants, they roll out on foot using their short throwing spears and and long overhand spears, and many more impressive feats/tasks. They were the most Elite a Mauryan commander could get.

Prakrastaasvaka (Mauryan Armoured Cavalry)

Rajan, I present you with your heaviest horsemen. We have combined Pahlava, Yavana, Saka, Tibetan, and our own techniques to create these armoured horsemen. Composed of rich volunteers who provide their own armour, this unit is not charging, but rather continued melee. The horses are every bit as armoured as the men, and perhaps moreso, as they are completely covered in scale, save the eyes, belly, and rear. The men are armoured in heavy bronze and iron scales, wear a turban with a red feather to distinguish themselves on the battlefield. Their weapons are the Aari and a metal-coated shield.

In comparison with their Hellenic, Iranian, and Turkic rivals, the Indian cataphracts were poor at charging, as their spear was short, overhand, and one-handed. However, this provided an advantage in closer combat if they managed to manuever past the enemy's lance, which was not too hard given the amount of armour on the horse (a two-handed lance grip is harder to hit the rider with). Their main asset in melee is their shield, a large advantage against their counterparts, even though being mounted diminishes its use.

Historically these men were a rarity on the battle field, as they were very expensive. These were the base of the medieval Rajput cavalry who challenged the Mughals for control of the subcontinent. They were also far more costly than the Hellenic and Pahlava Kataphraktoi, even though they wore about the same amount of armour; much of their equipment had to be imported.

**Leviathan DarklyCute** · 03-22-2009, 13:04

wow..

**Ibrahim** · 03-22-2009, 23:29

Originally Posted by Leviathan DarklyCute

wow..

QFT.

**CaesarAugustus** · 03-23-2009, 02:29

Loving the skin for those royal guards.

**miotas** · 04-03-2009, 02:13

Originally Posted by svramj

Rajakulapadaga (Royal Guards)

Rajan, your guard awaits. These men are mainly for countering elephants, though they are an excellent unit besides. Though their armour is heavy like that of the Pratradhaka, meaning their archery is slower, they make up for this with great skill. Arrows are a great deterrent to elephants, as number of wounds is far more important against elephants than the quality of those wounds; the beasts dislike injury comparably. Besides this, they can fight as heavy spearmen.

Historically, they came into existence right during the Seleucid-Mauryan wars, but were used well only during Asoka's Kalinga War. Where they fought, they took down most enemy elephants, ensuring victory for the Mauryans. However, these all-rounders they were few in number, and could use bows, javelins, spears and swords. They used their bows and accompanied their king on the elephants, they roll out on foot using their short throwing spears and and long overhand spears, and many more impressive feats/tasks. They were the most Elite a Mauryan commander could get.

I should not have come here, now this is all i can think about

**Karo** · 04-15-2009, 14:04

awesome mod really very awesome, but there is a little thing I'm worried about because there is no steppe faction who's going to stop Hayastan and the other Caucasian faction, Iberia isn't it, from moving in too the steppe and conquering it and making it very hard for the Crimean faction from conquering it.

And how much longer till we can play this awesome mod

**CaesarAugustus** · 04-18-2009, 16:10

Originally Posted by Karo

awesome mod really very awesome, but there is a little thing I'm worried about because there is no steppe faction who's going to stop Hayastan and the other Caucasian faction, Iberia isn't it, from moving in too the steppe and conquering it and making it very hard for the Crimean faction from conquering it.

And how much longer till we can play this awesome mod

Maybe something like the super-Celts in Easter Europe to stop the Romans and Sweboz in normal EB could be implemented in AtB for the Western steppes. Many-Chevroned nomads led by a very good general would hopefully at least deter the non-steppe factions from expanding there for some time, representing the difficulty of conquering and holding the steppes.

Oh and Dacia and even the Greek city-states shouldn't be too easy for Makedonia to conquer either.