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    I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach
    I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye...
    This will be very useful indeed.

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    I dunno, I kind of liked the old way better.

    Is there any way we could get rid of that line break between the custom user title and the avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach
    I just noticed that the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar. Congrats Tosa, this looks much better. More pleasing to the eye...
    I was playing with the settings a bit and it stuck me it was put in one block of text. That's not how I recalled it was. It depends which settings were used and some code moved up somewhere/time?

    Ran into another glitch that's here for months too.


    I guess the linebreak can be removed, will check.


    Users who have broadband enabled, it's tied with that atm, can see a mirror effect below the avatar. I thought this to be some sort of glossy thing to 'enhance' images. Not sure this effect is worth to be kept.
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    It looks cool. Keep it, if I have a I say.
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    I'm sorry to disagree, yet I find the new view rather cramped and disorganised compared to the older version. If its possible, I would much prefer its restoration or to have the choice of which view I would want to see.
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    Agree with Omanes.

    I like to make sure what type of member people are sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen
    Agree with Omanes.

    I like to make sure what type of member people are sometimes
    the type of member that someone is has been slightly changed and put below the avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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    It looks cool. Keep it, if I have a I say.
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    I mean the reflection. The other thing, I'm indifferent towards.
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    I dislike the existing space even more. May I request its the restoration to former beauty - I felt more relaxed and comfortable with the classical layout.

    If we have to keep it though, could we place a space between the custom user title and the avatar. In addition, could we also have a space between the avatar and the user group name. This would remove my primary issue with the new looks existence. As I have said, restoration of the old layout would be preferable, but I'm willing to settle for a compromise for now.

    I've kept quiet about this for while now, but I do feel that I ought to mention a few issues I have with the .Org layout in general.

    My primary problem is with the location of the "favourites" function (whose image I am using AdBlock+ to hide). It adds bulk to the bar which is something I find rather unattractive.

    In my opinion, a more ideal solution would be to have the favourites icon next to the "Report Post" button. To ensure continuity, it would be better if it were the same size as the buttons on that row (21px by 17px). A star, comparable to the IE 5, 6 and 7 icon, probably would be the best option for this.

    Another thing I want to bring to your notice is the lack of a user group being shown for those who are clan managers (for example InsaneApache or Puzz3D). May I suggest that this works like those who have extra PM space - they retain a normal title and remain part of the Junior Member/Member/Senior Member system. An italic title could also apply to those who are banned so they are more easily distinguishable.

    Another item I wish to bring to your notice, is that selecting "No Icon" when posting actually provides an icon anyhow. On the R:TW skin, this is a fairly generic post icon. On other skins, its a smiley face. For tidiness, and continuity, may I suggest that the "no icon" is replaced by either no icon, or by the "post" icon.

    In addition, may I request more detailed descriptions for the Frontroom and Backroom, hopefully to enable easier differentiation between the two.

    Also forum wise, it possibly would be a good idea to move the E:TW announcement threads in the EH into the E:TW forum itself - it seems more logical to place all E:TW threads in their relevant forum for the purpose of forum searching.

    May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum into either The Engineer's Guild or the Guides Section. It seems a little more logical to place them in a relevant sub category rather than have them lengthening the front page.

    Might I also suggest that the mod recruitment forums and moved into their respective game's modification area (Mod Downloads, Forge, Mods in Development etc.). Since they are not hosted mods, the suggested area may be more relevant to their purpose.

    I'm sorry to be critical of your writing Tosa, but there are some minor grammatical mistakes in the Signature FAQ. This just includes spaces in wrong places and links overrunning the words which they are supposed to do so.

    As before, I'm sorry to be so critical, although I do, at the moment, feel that these ideas may be more useful out in the open rather than locked away in my mind.

    Thanks!
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    May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum into either The Engineer's Guild or the Guides Section.
    Guides section please, under the proper MTW Guides sub-section. Titles would receive an (XL) prefix, for instance, to be distinguished.
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    I have a weird problem since these changes happened.

    I'm using Opera and some threads have a seemingly completely inactive reply button now, that means I can click it and nothing happens, it doesn't even attempt to load or contact the server. It works fin in most threads(like this one), but in those affected even reloading doesn't seem to help. I tried it in Internet Explorer and it worked there, guess it has to do with the new stuff since I never had this problem before.


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    @Husar, what thread exactly? I haven't encounter any problems yet...

    EDIT: checked, it works for me ...
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    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...13#post1734513

    That one for example, I can't click any link in it I noticed now. Whatever I click in the thread window, nothing happens, though I know I watched at the poll statistics before, so it worked before.

    Something that happens in every thread is that when I click "jump to new post", I always end up a few posts above the actual new post, not even at a distinct post, can be in the middle of some older post.

    edit: seems like the things I clicked load once I close the tab with the affected thread. It seems that in all affected thread a certain member with a signature that looks a bit weird here has posted. Also the misplacement when going to new posts seems to be bigger with more posts, I might try disabling the broadband option, it seems like many errors can be linked to that.

    edit2: disabling the broadband option fixed both problems, it jumps to the correct position and I can click all links where I couldn't do it before.
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    Husar, can you enable broadband and try again please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    Husar, can you enable broadband and try again please?
    Done, seems to work fine now, thanks Tosa.


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    my point was that i prefer the member category to be above the avatar.
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    Hello Omanes Alexandrapolites,

    Quote Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
    I dislike the existing space even more. May I request its the restoration to former beauty - I felt more relaxed and comfortable with the classical layout.
    This is the classical layout in that it was setup that way years ago, I thought it still was like that. Something went wrong and I didn't notice as I usually have URLavatars enabled.

    If we have to keep it though, could we place a space between the custom user title and the avatar. In addition, could we also have a space between the avatar and the user group name. This would remove my primary issue with the new looks existence. As I have said, restoration of the old layout would be preferable, but I'm willing to settle for a compromise for now.
    A normal space feels too big.

    It's unfortunately not possible to leave this choice to each user individually (even the two main forumviews can't be selected by the user). It would be nice if the user could modify every part of the forum: the database serves, the user decides how he sees it.

    I've kept quiet about this for while now, but I do feel that I ought to mention a few issues I have with the .Org layout in general.
    Don't bite your tongue please.

    My primary problem is with the location of the "favourites" function (whose image I am using AdBlock+ to hide). It adds bulk to the bar which is something I find rather unattractive.

    In my opinion, a more ideal solution would be to have the favourites icon next to the "Report Post" button. To ensure continuity, it would be better if it were the same size as the buttons on that row (21px by 17px). A star, comparable to the IE 5, 6 and 7 icon, probably would be the best option for this.
    That's a nice suggestion for the position.

    Another thing I want to bring to your notice is the lack of a user group being shown for those who are clan managers (for example InsaneApache or Puzz3D). May I suggest that this works like those who have extra PM space - they retain a normal title and remain part of the Junior Member/Member/Senior Member system.
    That's a weird thing indeed. .. I may see what I overlooked when trying to fix this months ago when it popped up.. A Clan account may have to post to enforce an update on his account. It may be fixed it may not.

    No, it's a 'rank' and should be visible as such.

    An italic title could also apply to those who are banned so they are more easily distinguishable.
    It's empty now.

    Another item I wish to bring to your notice, is that selecting "No Icon" when posting actually provides an icon anyhow.
    Yes, a default icon, otherwise you'll get an unconvenient topiclisting.

    On the R:TW skin, this is a fairly generic post icon. On other skins, its a smiley face. For tidiness, and continuity, may I suggest that the "no icon" is replaced by either no icon, or by the "post" icon.
    Yes, old default since 2000. It can be changed to another default, but?

    In addition, may I request more detailed descriptions for the Frontroom and Backroom, hopefully to enable easier differentiation between the two.
    Will think about that.

    Also forum wise, it possibly would be a good idea to move the E:TW announcement threads in the EH into the E:TW forum itself - it seems more logical to place all E:TW threads in their relevant forum for the purpose of forum searching.
    The EH also contains several STW, MTW, RTW and possibly also M2TW topics. You want to have them all moved?

    May I also suggest the merging of the M:TW mod guides forum into either The Engineer's Guild or the Guides Section. It seems a little more logical to place them in a relevant sub category rather than have them lengthening the front page.
    They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best.

    Might I also suggest that the mod recruitment forums and moved into their respective game's modification area (Mod Downloads, Forge, Mods in Development etc.). Since they are not hosted mods, the suggested area may be more relevant to their purpose.
    That's true, but it's usually larger teams that have a hosted modforum and are looking for recruits. But what do the modders think about this?

    I'm sorry to be critical of your writing Tosa, but there are some minor grammatical mistakes in the Signature FAQ. This just includes spaces in wrong places and links overrunning the words which they are supposed to do so.
    Don't worry. I saw three wrong spaces, you see other errors?

    Feel that these ideas may be more useful out in the open rather than locked away in my mind.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Done, seems to work fine now, thanks Tosa.
    It was the reflection feature causing trouble then.
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    Clan title shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    It was the reflection feature causing trouble then.
    Thought so, noticed it's gone.
    As you know, I didn't like it anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best.
    How about creating sub-sections under the Guides section? So that all guides could be found in one place conveniently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    A normal space feels too big.

    It's unfortunately not possible to leave this choice to each user individually (even the two main forumviews can't be selected by the user). It would be nice if the user could modify every part of the forum: the database serves, the user decides how he sees it.
    I was thinking of it a little more like this:




    This doesn't, in my opinion, make the usergroup too detached from the rest of the text.

    Unfortunately, in the case of those which have that field blank, the gap probably will look too large. If this system was to be used, then they may have to have a title assigned to them to prevent this.
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    That's a nice suggestion for the position.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    That's a weird thing indeed. .. I may see what I overlooked when trying to fix this months ago when it popped up.. A Clan account may have to post to enforce an update on his account. It may be fixed it may not.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    Yes, old default since 2000. It can be changed to another default, but?
    I was just thinking that a smiley face could be a little misleading. If somebody is going on an angry rant, and they fail to select an icon, the default one doesn't seem to fit.
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    Will think about that.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    The EH also contains several STW, MTW, RTW and possibly also M2TW topics. You want to have them all moved?
    No, it was just the E:TW announcements I was thinking of - members may want to search for them in the futre, and probably will turn to the E:TW forums to do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    They are Guides for mods. Not sure about moving them to the MTW guides forum (those forums are for new members and should not become complex). Moving them to the modding forums hides them: people picked up a mod and play. I don't think a casual player would search the technical modforums for a guide. Moving them to a hosted mod forum, was the first thought, but there are mods that do not have a hosted forum, so creating a new category seemed best.
    I was thinking more of the forum being moved rather than the guides themselves. Sorry for any confutation caused by my lack of clarity.
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    Don't worry. I saw three wrong spaces, you see other errors?
    That seems to have fixed it. Thanks!
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    Hello Omanes Alexandrapolites,

    Quote Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
    I was thinking of it a little more like this:




    This doesn't, in my opinion, make the usergroup too detached from the rest of the text.

    Unfortunately, in the case of those which have that field blank, the gap probably will look too large. If this system was to be used, then they may have to have a title assigned to them to prevent this.
    There are default membertitles: Junior Member, Member, Senior Member..
    We can see how it looks.

    I was just thinking that a smiley face could be a little misleading. If somebody is going on an angry rant, and they fail to select an icon, the default one doesn't seem to fit.
    Yes, I see that. But the idea others have by say, the posticon, is that the thread contains some essay/guide. When the default icon is removed completely and when a user is forced to make a selection before posting, nothing stops the poster to just select something. Leaving it blank also makes fusy topics. There's always the risk of posticons not covering the content.


    I was thinking more of the forum being moved rather than the guides themselves.
    I understood it that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
    How about creating sub-sections under the Guides section? So that all guides could be found in one place conveniently.
    At the moment there are only guides for the XL mod, but there are more popular mods. When there are guides for those as well, I hope so, then the Guides forum will be clutered by subforums. The idea is to keep the Guides forum quick and clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At the moment there are only guides for the XL mod, but there are more popular mods. When there are guides for those as well, I hope so, then the Guides forum will be clutered by subforums. The idea is to keep the Guides forum quick and clear.
    Fair. Actually I'm warmer to my previous idea: Grouping the guides by games only and tagging the threads (similar to the way in the M2 boards maybe) according to mods, as already done for expansions. Eg: XL: Serbia (Early) or Serbia (Early - XL Mod Faction); EB: Lusotana or Lusotana (EB Faction) when that one is written etc.
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    Green start to add favourites, red star to remove it again.
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    It seems like the Org is slower since these changes occured.

    I'm I the only one experiencing this? I have broadband.
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    I also noticed that, seems to be a bit better without the reflections, but then it has almost always been somewhat slow.


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    Hello Andres,

    The changes are like AB -> BA, no additions are made.

    The reflection, remove now, did add an extra loading. But that was loaded while you could already start reading and scrolling.
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    No speed change over here.
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