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    Default Are Papal elections working properly?

    This has been mentioned before, but it was a little vague.
    OK. I'm Sicily, I'm allied with the Papal States, we're on good terms and the Pope dies.
    I have a majority vote in the election and still get outvoted... any ideas? BTW the last Pope was mine, if that makes any difference.
    This is making Cardinals pretty damn useless. Now my worst enemy is controlling the Papacy even though I won the election.

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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    just a theory mind you, but maybe how many factions has some sort of modifier to the vote? It might explain why so many people see this (and most of the time it's their own cardinals voting for themselves)
    other then that..... no clue


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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    Indeed it seems that way, but does that make sense?
    A vote is a vote, why the need for a modifier?. And what is the point of having more than one Cardinal if the best you can do with him is to vote for another faction for the Popometer boost? One Cardinal voting for another faction gives you the same boost as 4 Cardinals voting for another faction.

    I'm confused.

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    Papal elections are bugged. If you have a save from the previous turn (Not the autosave which it does as soon as elections are called) load from that and try the election again. It should have the correct result the second time. I've had this bug three times and reloading the previous turn has fixed it all three times.


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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    Yes, we must have a Pope Gonzo! (Nevermind that Pope take a new name)
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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    It's OK, if he had become Pope he would have taken a different Papal name (Pope Gonzo just sounds daft).
    My personal favourite would have been Pope Miss Piggy...

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    I'd have preferred my Spanish cardinal "Jésus" to have become pope.


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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    This is just more proof of the game designers' pure brilliance. Clearly the votes were correctly displayed. However, it is not the votes that decide; it is the one who counts the votes! In other words, the election was stolen. Not of course that this ever actually, in fact, really ever happened. Except maybe once, when dead men who voted in Cook County Chicago in 1960 elected JFK. This is why the designers also gave you assassins to correct the miscounting problem.

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    Sheer genius eh?
    And there's me just thinking it was just another piece of shoddy programming. I now see it for the satirical theatre it is, I stand corrected.

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    Default Re: Are Papal elections working properly?

    hmm, the best way to prevent it is to own the church of Rome yourself.

    i spawn lots of priests, who either get promotion (in heathen lands) or else turned to heresy (failing to convert ppl from orthodox and losing faith). for the last 100 turns, i was practically voting people OUT of the church by voting them in as popes. sure. i wasnt getting MY pope in. but it also meants that as time goes on, and those ancient popes died off, there are less and less cardinals, as i flooded the promotion of priests from my fractions so that even my enemies vote for my pope to keep on their good side (whats left of 3 other cardinals from other fractions)

    the funny with my current game is that Pope Tomascius is only 39 y/o when he started. and now? i am laughing all the way as i slowly strangle all of western europe. The pope is getting old now - 59 y/o, but still look healthy and got quite a few years left.

    the key to dominate the catholic church is to see it as a war of patient and attrition. patient until you actually dominate the church so much that no bug can stuff up your game. and attrition by blocking the opposition's promotions with your own and removing the stumbling blocks by voting for those cardinals.
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