The Brotherhood - Part II - Large Mafia Game [Concluded]

[sapi]

But in the meanwhile, now that you are here, maybe you can give us your version of what happened?

I'm not in his group; until and unless someone from that group confirms what may, or may not, have happened, I've got nothing to explain...

[Andres]

I'm not in his group; until and unless someone from that group confirms what may, or may not, have happened, I've got nothing to explain...

Why would you wait for your other team mates? Since someone bailed out, you can't trust them anymore, can you?

Might as well give some additional information to go on. Besides, a little bit more discussion won't harm the town.

[sapi]

Why would you wait for your other team mates? Since someone bailed out, you can't trust them anymore, can you?

Might as well give some additional information to go on. Besides, a little bit more discussion won't harm the town.

I'm waiting for his team mates, considering that (unless I've read something wrong) he tried a nightkill on me (seems an odd thing to do considering the odds, but that's beside the point).

I knew nothing about it until then.

[Andres]

For above reasons. As for elaboration, one of the team bailed when trying to have at him. Only a fellow mafia would block a kill aimed at a mafia but wouldn't care if a non mafia were targeted. Also means one of my team is mafia.

Why did you guys want to kill sapi on night 1 in the first place? Can you quote a suspicious post he made in round 1? Did he send a suspicious pm to somebody? Surely, you must have had a reason to perform a vigilante kill on him?

Also, 1 of your team mates is to be distrusted. You are in your team as well, aren't you? How can you guarantee us that it isn't you who infiltrated your group?

[Beefy187]

Sapi might have a powerful townie role. Or he was randomly chosen but randomly protected.

Eitherway I trust Sapi over FH and I will vote for FH unless he comes up with a convincing arguement.

Vote: FH

[FactionHeir]

Why we wanted sapi dead? No reason, just a vigilante kill, kind of like Day 1.
While I'm not sure which of my team bailed from the kill, (because we all communiacted via PM and were told one of us bailed) what is so difficult in seeing that only a mafioso would bail from a kill, if it was aimed at a fellow mafioso. Do you really think a mafioso would bail from a kill aimed at a townie and make himself suspicious?

Now, other than that one of my team protected sapi by not doing as they said they had, there is of course not much more I can say that confirms his mafianess.

And as I said, that means one of my team is mafia as well, but it would be more difficult to find which one it is at the moment, and probably easier after this turn.

[sapi]

Do you really think a mafioso would bail from a kill aimed at a townie and make himself suspicious?

You mean, make the target of the kill suspicious

[Andres]

Why we wanted sapi dead? No reason, just a vigilante kill, kind of like Day 1.

Only the mafia is supposed to kill without any good reason... This doesn't make sense. As far as I'm concerned, vigilante taking lucky shots are as dangerous as the mafia themselves. You guys did realise that by killing a random target, you might as well kill an important pro-town role?



I don't like your explanation.

While I'm not sure which of my team bailed from the kill, (because we all communiacted via PM and were told one of us bailed) what is so difficult in seeing that only a mafioso would bail from a kill, if it was aimed at a fellow mafioso. Do you really think a mafioso would bail from a kill aimed at a townie and make himself suspicious?

WIFOM. + there are alot of alternative explanations: a) maybe you guys are the mafia group, afraid to perform a kill because you don't want to get caught? b) a team mate simply forgot to send in his orders c) real life interfered and a team mate didn't have acces to a pc and couldn't send in his orders in time d) what sapi said ...

And as I said, that means one of my team is mafia as well, but it would be more difficult to find which one it is at the moment, and probably easier after this turn.

Why is that?

[FactionHeir]

Of course it doesn't necessarily help, but its a mafia game and we are here to have fun.

a) you wouldn't know tbh other than me saying that we aren't a mafia-only group.
b) All of them told me they sent their orders
c) see b
d) Then why would one of the team be lying?

What do you mean with why is that? Btw, would a mafia really go as obvious to get someone voted out, rather than a concerned townie group?

[Cheetah]

I do not think that we can make an informed decision in the FH vs Sapi debate. It is still the word of FH vs the word of Sapi.
Moreover, it was admittedly a random choice. So just because some bailed out of a random kill it does not mean that Sapi is an assassin.

IMO it would be more interesting to hear what story has Charge against Roadkill.

Also, I think that it is silly that we have to lynch someone regardless of the lack of proof we have. Why cannot we just move on if we do not have sufficient votes within 24 hrs? As it stands we will lynch the whole brotherhood without the assasins moving a finger ... I bet they are laughing hard watching the confused townies lynching each other.

[FactionHeir]

You speak true Cheetah, but why would someone bail out of a random kill and claim that they had sent their orders in as suggested? That smells scummy to me.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Players can vote no lynch if they wish to. It will just take eight players to vote for the option for no death to actually take place at the conclusion of the day phase. I probably didn't publicise that very well - sorry

[Cheetah]

Thx. I feel much better.

As it stands (i.e. unless someone comes up with a solid proof):

vote: no lynch

[Andres]

We won't win the game without lynching mafiosi...

And waiting for proof won't help the town either. We have to discuss, force people to take a stand and then we lynch, based on analysis of posts. Off course, we will be lynching a couple of townies. But that's no big deal. The advantage of the town lays in its' numbers. We can afford a few mistakes.

The discussion generated by the lynching will give us additional clues and additional information to analyse.

As it stands (i.e. unless someone comes up with a solid proof):

vote: no lynch

That statement is in fact an argument against discussion.

Suspicious...

[Cheetah]

We won't win the game without lynching mafiosi...

but we won't win the game by lynching random people either ....

And waiting for proof won't help the town either. We have to discuss, force people to take a stand and then we lynch, based on analysis of posts. Off course, we will be lynching a couple of townies. But that's no big deal. The advantage of the town lays in its' numbers. We can afford a few mistakes.

I do not think so. By lynching random townies you give away this very advantage.

The discussion generated by the lynching will give us additional clues and additional information to analyse.

I won't bet on it. Did your lyncing give us any useful clues?

That statement is in fact an argument against discussion.

My statement is an argument against lyncing random people. I never said anything against discussing the situation.

Suspicious...

A mafioso would be the most happy to lynch random townies, do not you think?

[Dutch_guy]

That's a possibility. But in that case, there would have been a few killings, don't you think?

Not only that, but I would say at least some sort of explanation of said dubious event(s) would have been given by Omanes. The simple story is that nothing happened, at all except some behind the scenes activity.

As it stands (i.e. unless someone comes up with a solid proof):

I understand where you're coming from, but keep in mind that lynching no one won't get us anywhere, and gives us one less opportunity to kill a potential mafioso.

[Craterus]

Vote tally:

Brave Sir Robin - 1 (Craterus)
RoadKill - 2 (shlin28, Beefy?)
TwilightBladeB - 1 (Sarathos)
sapi - 1 (FactionHeir)
Cheetah - 1 (RoadKill)
FactionHeir - 1 (Beefy?)

No Lynch - 1 (Cheetah)

Beefy forgot to unvote so just thought I'd check that one.

[shlin28]

but we won't win the game by lynching random people either ....



I do not think so. By lynching random townies you give away this very advantage.



I won't bet on it. Did your lyncing give us any useful clues?



My statement is an argument against lyncing random people. I never said anything against discussing the situation.



A mafioso would be the most happy to lynch random townies, do not you think?

What is the last statement's purpose? Is it accusing Andres (and consequently me, Beefy and TwilightBlade) of being mafia? Random voting sometimes do work you know

[Beefy187]

Sorry I unvoted RK.. Although something in me tells me that RK is one of the scums..

Unvote: RK Vote: FH

And I didnt like the tone of Cheetahs statement.. It sounded like a nice bloke with mafia suit and sunglasses telling one of the kids in the park "Stay away from our don" in a nice way.

FOS: Cheetah

[Sarathos]

Is it accusing Andres (and consequently me, Beefy and TwilightBlade) of being mafia? :

And how is that? Maybe Cheetah is right and you are all mafia, getting a bit touchy are we....

Unvote:TB,Random vote:Shlin28 lets see if it does work.

[Beefy187]

lol

If we are a mafia you wouldnt be alive Sarathos.

[Twilightblade]

Hmmm I dont know about that beefy killing off ppl who you know in RL is dangerous but i spose that I'd go with it anyway

[Caius]

Somehow, the mafia is/are lurkers.

Vote:WH

[Cheetah]

What is the last statement's purpose? Is it accusing Andres (and consequently me, Beefy and TwilightBlade) of being mafia? Random voting sometimes do work you know

Someone is a bit touchy here I agree. I said that last sentence in my defense.

[Cheetah]

And I didnt like the tone of Cheetahs statement.. It sounded like a nice bloke with mafia suit and sunglasses telling one of the kids in the park "Stay away from our don" in a nice way.

FOS: Cheetah

I have never defended anyone in particular. I am just against random voting ... geez never thought that random lyncing is soooooo popular.


ps. what does FOS mean?

[Cheetah]

Somehow, the mafia is/are lurkers.

Vote:WH

Good point, as it would explain why the maffia made no moves on the first night.

And the only person who have not posted here as yet is Warmaster Horus.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

ps. what does FOS mean?

FoS stands for "Finger of Suspition". Its usually used as a way of showing one's suspicions without voting for somebody.

[Andres]

Cheetah is acting suspicious...

[Sarathos]

If we are a mafia you wouldnt be alive Sarathos.

So if I get killed next phase I know why...

[Andres]

Why are you guys not lynching Cheetah?

Brave Sir Robin, why are you not voting Cheetah? Is there a better option in your opinion? And what's your opinion on Craterus, pevergreen, Dutch_guy, Killfr3nzy, Twilightblade, RoadKill, kamikhaan and Warmaster Horus?

Is their lurking bothering you?

Lurking is out of charachter, especially for pevergreen, Warmaster Horus and Craterus...