Out of character thread XVI

[FactionHeir]

If Authority is any indicator, people won't stop. Hans' 6 Influence (and about 5 or so Authority) didn't stop anyone either

But I think people will stop because no-one wants to have a character dislike you, especially if that character is the gamemaster's avatar (not that econ is that mean though)

[econ21]

But I think people will stop because no-one wants to have a character dislike you, especially if that character is the gamemaster's avatar

That's why I made my last post - I don't want anyone stop fighting just because the gamemaster's avatar says so. We have had two new players join Hummel and they may be chewing at the bit to continue the civil war. Ignoramus may also want to take advantage of Bern. That's fine.

Elberhard's proclamation is just in character stuff - he would try to call a pause at this point (he could not do so before, as Hans had the harsh justice trait and so wanted to prosecute the civil war).

The proclamation is also aimed at Prague, where another internal conflict is brewing.

[FactionHeir]

Ah, so you want people to disobey Elberhard? It would portray his low authority nicely, although that may impact how he is viewed at the next diet.
Its actually a major handicap to be emperor and only have 2 authority, compared to Heinrich and Henry, eh?

[TinCow]

I am going to advance to 1332 this evening, with the 1332 report done by Monday evening. Thus, I am setting a HARD DEADLINE of 3pm EST TODAY for the remaining two battles. These are for Fritz von Kastilien (Tamur) and Péter von Kastilien (gibsonsg91921). There has been more than enough time for these to be fought before now and there will be no more extensions. See here for details on the battles.

If Peter's is not done by 3pm, I will fight it myself, since I originally said I would. I will simply skip Fritz's battle and Stettin will fall.

Use this save: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1330-13.zip

Keeping the game moving is important, especially since I expect a battle during the AI turn.

[GeneralHankerchief]

OverKnight, I was thinking that since so much was written about the Battle of Bern, it might be better organized if everything was listed in bullet points or something similar in the Histories Thread.

For example, there'd be the main Battle of Bern header complete with link and then under that:

• Dietrich makes a decision
• Jan prepares
• A wife mourns
• Lifeline
• Elberhard reacts
• Two stories

[Zim]

Gah! I read you loud and clear, TC. Taking the save now. I'm housesitting, but I can drive to the aprtment (ten minutes away) and fight the battle right away.

I am going to advance to 1332 this evening, with the 1332 report done by Monday evening. Thus, I am setting a HARD DEADLINE of 3pm EST TODAY for the remaining two battles. These are for Fritz von Kastilien (Tamur) and Péter von Kastilien (gibsonsg91921). There has been more than enough time for these to be fought before now and there will be no more extensions. See here for details on the battles.

If Peter's is not done by 3pm, I will fight it myself, since I originally said I would. I will simply skip Fritz's battle and Stettin will fall.

Use this save: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1330-13.zip

Keeping the game moving is important, especially since I expect a battle during the AI turn.

[Zim]

I'm sorry guys. I downloaded the save, stuck it on a thumb drive, and dashed to the apartment with my gaming computer. Fighting the battle was easy, but because of the crappy dial-up on my gaming computer I couldn't upload the new save (several tries with no success).

I can't make it back to the computer with the decent wireless until a good hour or two after Tincow's deadline (already late for church and the wife is getting madder).

Sorry again.

[gibsonsg91921]

im going to put myself on full-time reserve duty cuz i the time i have for battles is sporadic and unpredictable.

[FactionHeir]

Zim, did you zip/rar the file before trying to upload? If you do, the save usually shrinks down to 736kb, and is easy to upload even if a slow connection.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Re-reading the epilogue of Bern, the final image I get of Dietrich is like when Kane is embracing the GDI Ion Cannon in Tiberian Dawn. Does this mean he'll reappear 30 years later to continue the war?

[TinCow]

Time is up, I'm taking the save.

[TinCow]

As expected, there is a battle on the AI turn.

Dieter Bresch (Elite Ferret) and Tancred von Tyrolia (Dutch_guy):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Magdeburg is being assaulted by the combined Polish armies. Dieter Bresch is trapped inside and must hold the walls and be victorious, or perish. Tancred von Tyrolia is nearby with a moderate sized army and can arrive as reinforcements. If Elite Ferret cannot or does not wish to fight the battle, it is acceptable for Dutch_guy to play it, as he is also involved.

Note: Tancred von Tyrolia shows up as reinforcements, but Dieter Bresch has a full unit roster. Thus, in order for Tancred to be in the battle from the beginning, he will have to be under AI control. Please note that if you do this, he has a very high chance of dying. The safer alternative is to have Tancred's army under human control, but doing so will not make his units available until some of Dieter's have been completely destroyed. I leave the choice up to whoever is fighting the battle.

The Org PBM Uploader is acting up again, so I used the alternative site. The save is:
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/kotr1330-14.zip

Technically I have to give 48 hours to fight this battle, but it would aid me very, very greatly if it could be completed before 6pm EST tomorrow, Monday, November 19th. If it is done by then, I should be able to get the 1332 report up by tomorrow night EST.

Also, to anyone else who downloads the save to look at the game, I have NOT implemented all of the 1330 orders yet, particularly the reinforcements in Frankfurt. I played around with the save a bit and if I did the changes before advancing the turn, the AI did some very annoying things, like break off the siege of Rheims and refuse to besiege Frankfurt. By implementing a few of the 1330 orders at the beginning of 1332, the AI acts a lot more rationally. Finally, I fought the battle for Peter, then reloaded and teleported the rebel army to Milan, where it will be needed in the future. I then simply disbanded 2 militia units and a depleted merc spearmen in Peter's army to simulate the casualties. Thank you for bearing with me while I try to manhandle the game into doing what it was never meant to do.

[FactionHeir]

Re-reading the epilogue of Bern, the final image I get of Dietrich is like when Kane is embracing the GDI Ion Cannon in Tiberian Dawn. Does this mean he'll reappear 30 years later to continue the war?

Possible, although unlikely in 30, that Dietrich will reappear. We did have another von Kassel appear afterall.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah, but he went off to the russians.

[FactionHeir]

He left behind Dieter von Kassel though.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah...

EF - good luck on magdeburg on the triple gold. if dieter and tancred both die, we're ed

[Ferret]

Taking the save.

I'll try to keep Tancred out of it, leaving him to the AI will make a very unhappy player I should think, hopefully the citadel will help me enough to win.

[Tamur]

hi all,

Thanks for the excellent writeup of the Bern battle, econ21. What a thrilling ending!

Sadly, I have to withdraw from the game. I'm obviously hamstringing Fritz with my life, which currently gives me about two hours a week to devote towards KotR. I spend most of that reading, and very little of it playing.

I'll continue to use my couple of hours a week to read though. The Diet session should be truly phenomenal.

Cheers,
Tamur

[Privateerkev]

Hi Tamur. Sorry to hear your leaving. Have you considered just taking a "generic elector" so you can keep voting and talking in the Diet? Just a thought. ^_^

[FactionHeir]

Its almost looking as if Austria would be the most active house soon

Sorry to hear you will be leaving us Tamur! I suppose since one of the new ones will be joining Franconia, they could take Fritz?

[Dutch_guy]

Taking the save.

I'll try to keep Tancred out of it, leaving him to the AI will make a very unhappy player I should think, hopefully the citadel will help me enough to win.

Good, would hate to see a lone Tancred charge his mounted guard straight into a full stack of angry Poles.

[Ramses II CP]

'One of the new ones' would be happy to serve Franconia in any capacity. You guys pick. It would certainly be more in context for me to take over an already present and older character, but I can't say I'm completely familiar with the flavor of Fritz's life.

I also want to say the battle of Bern seemed to come together perfectly from an outsider's perspective. Religious conflicts in history, especially those driven by strong personalities, so often result in immense slaughter and general loss of life that the way things worked out almost feels like the only way they could've ended.

[Zim]

Zim, did you zip/rar the file before trying to upload? If you do, the save usually shrinks down to 736kb, and is easy to upload even if a slow connection.

I did. It wasn't really the slowness of the connection(as crappy as it was, it should have taken less than a minute or so) but each time I'd try, after a little while, I'd get some white screen of death and it never uploaded.

I hate aol, but I can't complain too much since I get it for free from another person in the apartment.

Edit: Since the uploader was acting up for Tincow as well, I guess it wasn't my connection's fault. Ah well, too late now.

[FactionHeir]

TC mentioned that the uploader has been acting up a bit. How's mizus (the alternative uploader) working for you?

[Zim]

I haven't tried the alternative uploader yet, but given theat Tincow had problems with the normal one today, and I never had any before today, I'm guessing the alternative one will work fine for me.

[Ferret]

battle fought and new save uploaded:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1332.rar

the triple gold stack didn't even move :(



oh and Polish dude is dead-you can't see that from the screeny.

[FactionHeir]

Yeah, happens a lot with AI reinforcing armies in a siege. They tend to just get stuck and wait for the timer to run out (meaning they lose). I think you can usually nudge them by taking out some of their missile troops/artillery in melee, but that isn't always easy.

[Ramses II CP]

Often if you let them open the first gate the reinforcements will come rushing for it (And die in droves on the towers of course).

[Ignoramus]

*faints*

Swabia is doomed...

[Stuperman]

well, if althawolf can recall loyalist units from bern, I'd say he has a half decent army under his control.