I guess the official outcome is "really bloody draw"?
I guess the official outcome is "really bloody draw"?
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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I would have to agree when you sum it all up. Wow what a battle!Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Nice work econ!![]()
A very interesting result, and a disasterous one for Swabia. With no one alive to pacify the provinces, they will be ravaged over the next few years.
Oh, wow...
I've been following this one for a while (since sometime before the Cataclysm) and Jan von Hamburg's death is really sad. It's like watching a miniseries and your favorite character dies.
Jan always seemed to be the one character with the most guts. When most everyone else played it safe most of the time, Jan put his balls on the anvil turn after turn, along with der Kaiser and Matthias. He was also arguably the most noble character in the entire Reich; I don't even normally like strongly religious characters, but Jan seemed to stand out so well in an age of strife and backstabbing.
My one major disappointment was that Jan abandoned Outremer so unexpectedly. It really marred the flawless appearance of his character. I would love to pick this guy's brain, to find out his motives, and how involved he was, if at all, in secret dealings.
...You don't happen to have it preserved do you?
Anyway, thanks for the fun, Privateerkev.
Last edited by Reverend Joe; 11-18-2007 at 04:56.
First off, I want to congratulate Econ on one heck of a battle. We might have given the orders, but he did all the work.
Next, I want to thank GH, FH, and SM for playing a great battle and making it such a close fight. This was by far the most fun I've had in a game that has been really fun.
As for Jan's death, at least he went out the way he wanted to. I wasn't trying to suicide my avatar but I stopped caring if he died, as long as it was in a blaze of glory. If his death could help tip the battle, then I told Econ to do it. (I was the one that picked "fight to the death" option.) Jan didn't know if Dietrich was going to come back to the town square so he needed to take it and fast. I've always played him "balls to the walls" because of his courage traits so I made no exception in this case. Hence why he charged in first into the square. I didn't know which of his infantry would be able to make it in time since they had to fight on the walls first. So I simply could not take the chance of having Dietrich reinforcing the square before the Crusaders got there.
As for FH's comment about a Teuton skewering a fallen man, consider this. Jan had his Teutonic Knight Max join the Teuton regiment in order to give a letter to Hans. (Also I wanted Max to survive so I can use him later.) I'll probably claim Max killed Dietrich if Econ has no objections.
As for my next avatar, I would like to take Andreas von Hamburg (Jan's son) when he comes of age. In the meantime, I would like to be a generic Franconian elector (no avatar). I'll play Alfgarda von Hamburg (Jan's wife) until Andreas grows up. As long as Econ rules that a woman can serve in the Diet. Though she was the Queen of Outremer and the wife of a mid-level noble so it is plausible. If Clare (Jan's daughter) marries an avatar that looks good, I might take him instead.
I'm worn out and busy from school so I don't mind sitting out the rest of the cataclysm with no avatar.
I wonder how the Kaiser is going to take this. His brother and best friend were both killed. It will be interesting to see what happens when he lands.![]()
Reverend Gonzo: Thanks!It's always nice to see someone enjoy your work. As for Jan being brave, there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
I'm not sure if Jan did more harm than good over the course of his life but he did mean well. :D If you want to know anything, you are more than welcome to shoot me a PM with your questions. I won't comment on some of the current political dealings though because they involve avatars that are still alive.
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well, zirn offered to fight it, but if thats not gonna happen, i could try to fight it tomorrow or autoresolve it.
The late Emperor Peter von Kastilien the Tyrant, Lamm der Wahrheit.
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Such a sad and surprising ending to the battle of Bern. I wonder what will happen to Swabia now?
V&V RIP Helmut Becker, Duke of Bavaria.
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Kermit's made a TWS2 guide? Oh, the other frog....
looks like the principality wins?
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Heh, there we go.Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
The Battle of Bern was won by Wolfgang Hummel.![]()
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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A pretty good strategy if you ask me.Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Sit back and survive while your competition kills each other.![]()
Also, I wouldn't want to be Athawolf right now...
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