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    Default Re: Post cataclysm mechanics

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    Ehrhart has an army? Does that mean he left Staufen for Bern?
    I have no clue but I would be very surprised if he passed up the opportunity to get a full stack army and pot of wealth.


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    Wandering Metsuke Senior Member Zim's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev
    I have no clue but I would be very surprised if he passed up the opportunity to get a full stack army and pot of wealth.
    Full stack? I recall a bit under a half stack of virtually useless men, some much more useful cav, and about 1-2 units of real infantry surviving the Battle of Bern.

    Of course, the ton of cash could rectify any weaknesses in his army.
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    Default Re: Post cataclysm mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Zim
    I recall a bit under a half stack of virtually useless men
    Useless?

    Useless!!!??

    Hey those men performed awesomely against a force that was quite superior in terms of quality.



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    Apparently their fighting prowess wasn't enough for them to keep their leader from being killed. And bum rushing a tiny fragment of Dieter's army does not count as defeating a superior force. Hans' army was the one that performed beyond it's expectations, taking Hugo's and most of Dietrich's armies down with them.
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    Default Re: Post cataclysm mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Zim
    Apparently their fighting prowess wasn't enough for them to keep their leader from being killed. And bum rushing a tiny fragment of Dieter's army does not count as defeating a superior force. Hans' army was the one that performed beyond it's expectations, taking Hugo's and most of Dietrich's armies down with them.
    Well, their leader gambled because he wanted his side to win and was willing to risk his life in order to ensure success.

    On three separate occasions they took on superior regiments by mobbing them with numbers. "quantity has a quality all of it's own"

    Plus the cavalry ended up doing something quite unexpected. o_O

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    I think garrisons should be allowed to have up to six units. That's the amount that get free upkeep in huge cities, and it means that if a Count should marshal all his men he'll have a full stack.

    Anyways, I've been thinking of how I want Prague to function post-cataclysm. Part if it is obvious, for example Becker will be Reichsgraf von Bohmen. That means he is essentially a freehold count. He will remain Count of Bohemia until his death, whereupon it passes to his chosen heir. He sets the build queue, taxes, etc. Basically Bohemia becomes a County without a Duchy. I also think Bohemia should be given exactly one standing army, or else the Reichsgraf will be the only person in the Reich who has to ask outside his faction if he needs the power of an army.

    However, I want Bohemia to be something unique. Part of the beauty of the Cataclysm is that it provides and opportunity to fundamentally change the Four House political structure that has endured basically unchanged since the game began. With that in mind, I thought of what would become of Becker's kids. None of Becker's descendents would be part of a House, and with only one province the others are going to need something to do. So, I decided that all of Becker's descendents should have the ability to serve as 'free agents' in the Reich's armies.

    In other words, Bohemian electors would serve the same purpose recruitable generals have now. If the House you want to join doesn't have any avatars, you could join as a Bohemian and negotiate to serve under that house. A bohemian could even join another house permanently, although such a dramatic and permanent change would have to be approved by the Reichsgraf.

    This would give Bohemia a truly unique role in the Reich and would add to the roleplaying possibilities without giving Bohemia the powers of the Duchy.

    How's that seem to everyone else?

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    I say we go in and free Prague from Edmund the Dictator, who we then put on trial for crimes against humanity and the empire

    No, its a decent idea actually. I'd suggest you also contact the new player with the Böhmen avatar to convince him to join your "house"
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    Default Re: Post cataclysm mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
    I think garrisons should be allowed to have up to six units.
    Good point.

    I also think Bohemia should be given exactly one standing army, or else the Reichsgraf will be the only person in the Reich who has to ask outside his faction if he needs the power of an army.
    I am not sure we can stretch to one army per settlement. I think a feudal levy plus a free garrison would be about right for a single settlement. It's roughly what you were set up with at the start of the cataclysm.

    Having to ask outside of your faction for help is surely a price of having a faction of one person?

    Of course, there is nothing stopping the Chancellor giving you an Imperial army.

    So, I decided that all of Becker's descendents should have the ability to serve as 'free agents' in the Reich's armies.
    I think that sounds like a good idea, although like most things, I think the status of Prague should be decided by IC politics and not OOC.

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