Allowing retraining without allowing recruitment

[FactionHeir]

Hello.

I thought I had this figured out, but it seems that it doesn't quite work, so what I would like to know is, how I can make certain units retrainable by a certain building without at the same time making them recruitable by that building.

Example:
Crusader sergeants can only be recruited while on crusade and cannot be retrained even when you are on crusade and stopping inside a settlement.

What I want to do is make every region able to retrain crusader sergeants via a certain building (wall) even when not on crusade, but at the same time not allow the training of crusader sergeants from that building.

What I did:

large_stone_wall city requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, slave, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Conquistadores"  1   0.4   3  1  requires factions { slave, spain, portugal, }  and hidden_resource america
                recruit_pool "Papal Guard"  1   0.4   3  0  requires factions { papal_states, } 
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Conquistadores"  1   0.4   3  1  requires factions { slave, spain, portugal, }  and hidden_resource america
                recruit_pool "Town Militia"  1   0.2   2  0  requires factions { slave, england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, spain, portugal, } 
                recruit_pool "Italian Militia"  1   0.1   1  0  requires factions { slave, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, } 
                recruit_pool "EE Town Militia"  1   0.1   1  0  requires factions { slave, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "SE Town Militia"  1   0.1   1  0  requires factions { slave, byzantium, } 
                recruit_pool "ME Town Militia"  1   0.1   1  0  requires factions { slave, moors, turks, mongols, timurids, } 
                recruit_pool "Mongol Horse Archers"  1   0.2   2  0  requires factions { mongols, } 
                recruit_pool "Crusader Knights"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Crusader Sergeants"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Great Cross"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Flagellants"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Pilgrims"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Religious Fanatics"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Ghazis"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { middle_eastern, } 
                recruit_pool "Mutatawwi'a"  0   0.000001   0.999  0  requires factions { middle_eastern, } 
                wall_level 3
                tower_level 1
                gate_strength 2
                free_upkeep bonus 5
                happiness_bonus bonus 2
                recruitment_slots 3
            }
            material stone
            construction  3 
            cost  4800 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
                huge_stone_wall
            }
        }

Using this, I still cannot retrain them, even when starting a new game (switch works fine btw) and having flagged them properly in the unit file and edited out normans and saxons in the sm_factions file.

Any pointers?

[nikolai1962]

I think you can make the unit pool not a whole number e.g 0.5. So they never have enough men for a whole unit but can replace losses.

[FactionHeir]

Tried that:

                recruit_pool "Crusader Knights"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Crusader Sergeants"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Great Cross"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Flagellants"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Pilgrims"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Religious Fanatics"  0   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, poland, hungary, } 
                recruit_pool "Ghazis"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { middle_eastern, } 
                recruit_pool "Mutatawwi'a"  0.5   0.5   0.999  0  requires factions { middle_eastern, }

Unfortunately it is still not working though...

[CavalryCmdr]

Try giving them a starting and growth of 0.9 as well.

Have you edited the descr_campaign_db.xml?

It should work though I've not tested it myself yet. I know with
<retraining_slots uint="0.5"/>
it is posible to retrain units when that same unit is not yet available for recruitment.

[FactionHeir]

The former wouldn't help I think, as I tested for around 20 turns including building the structure.

The latter I'll have a go at when I get back. Would you recommend descr_recruitment.xml to be changed in line as well?

[CavalryCmdr]

I'll look into it, the way it seems a unit should be re-trainable if it is 0.9 available. I've not seen descr_recruitment.xml do much of anything, but it's cirtainly worth a try.