The down side of the smoking ban

[ZombieFriedNuts]

I’m sure you know in the summer that England went smoke free, I was all for it but now you get loads of the buggers hanging round the entrance to a building so you cant go in without getting a face full of smoke which is what they wanted to avoid in the first place.

[InsaneApache]

They should lock them up for 28 60 90 days without trial.

I went for a pint last week, first time since the ban came in, although I packed in 2 years ago all the guys I was with were sat outside puffing away, so I sat with them rather than be a 'Billy Nomates' inside. Christ it was bloody freezing!

[TB666]

I’m sure you know in the summer that England went smoke free, I was all for it but now you get loads of the buggers hanging round the entrance to a building so you cant go in without getting a face full of smoke which is what they wanted to avoid in the first place.

Had the same problem in Sweden so they added in the entrance as well into the law.

[FactionHeir]

Had the same problem in Sweden so they added in the entrance as well into the law.

So they just went a few meters past the entrance to continue?

[Papewaio]

Some areas its no smoking within 5 meters of an entrance or undercover... kind of limits the smoking area.

[InsaneApache]

Some areas its no smoking within 5 meters of an entrance or undercover... kind of limits the smoking area.

I believe the current Uk law is the same. Midst you, after pissing the guys off, would you want to move them on?

I bloody wouldn't.

[lars573]

Some areas its no smoking within 5 meters of an entrance or undercover... kind of limits the smoking area.

Only 5? Here it's 10+ from any enterance.

[Papewaio]

And I bet there is a bylaw that emergency exits have to be every ten meters...

[lars573]

No. And the bylaw isn't really enforced either.

[Papewaio]

I'm a 100% behind banning smoking in public places like hospitals and food halls and pubs for that matter.

What I'm against though is not treating the smokers as human beings. They are smokers and it does to a large extent rule their lives, but it doesn't define them to the point that they should be treated like pedophiles (well maybe if they were treated by JAG... a nice cup of tea and a talk it would be okay).

I'm sure one day people will look back and go... look at those stupid romans using lead as a sweetener and look at those stupid 20th century apes and their stupid nicotine delivery systems.

[Proletariat]

Give it a couple years, the cities and their bars will adapt and accomodate smokers like they have in San Fran, Sydney and NYC. You almost don't notice the bans in these places I've been since even when you're outside smoking in the winter your usually under some massive heat fan with comfy chairs underneath (take that, ozone!). That or they just cut out a bit of the patio roof, wall it up and claim that's the same as being outside.

[Kralizec]

Give it a couple years, the cities and their bars will adapt and accomodate smokers like they have in San Fran, Sydney and NYC. You almost don't notice the bans in these places I've been since even when you're outside smoking in the winter your usually under some massive heat fan with comfy chairs underneath (take that, ozone!). That or they just cut out a bit of the patio roof, wall it up and claim that's the same as being outside.

Heat fanned patios are getting popular in European countries too (not in the Netherlands, since smoking isn't banned in bars and the likes yet)
I think it was in Germany, somebody decided to "calculate" the annual CO2 output of these fanned patios and then demanded that the government would do something about it

[English assassin]

I went for a pint last week, first time since the ban came in, although I packed in 2 years ago all the guys I was with were sat outside puffing away, so I sat with them rather than be a 'Billy Nomates' inside. Christ it was bloody freezing!

Plus most of the fun women smoke*, so if you stay inside you are in a target poor; self righteous lentil-muncher rich environment. I'm glad I'm married, young lads up and down the country are going to have to take up smoking en masse if they want any action now.


*no offence intended to any non-smoking but also fun women reading this.

[Husar]

I'm afraid EA is right.
Don't think I'll start smoking myself but I might have to get used to passive smoking.
Of course it's not a big deal anyway if enough alcohol is involved.
I need to go back in my life and find the place where I lost my militant antismoker opinion.

I think it has to be somewhere under a big pile of love.

[monkian]

The two worst things about the smoking ban -

1) Not being able to skin up and smoke a fat doobie at undercover music events

2) The horrible stench of beer,sweat and farts in clubs that were previously covered by smoke

[Louis VI the Fat]

Bah, smoking bans. Over here too, started this year, and the ban will be completed by 2008.

This is why smokers die younger! Stress from this constant harrasment, from being fiscally plundered, from being chased outside in the cold all the time.

The evil Germans even forced Zidane and the rest of the French team outside for their calming coffee and smoke breaks!! The stress this causes to the French mind costed us the World Cup!

[Husar]

It's quite telling when your football team would rather smoke than win the World Cup.

[lars573]

I just heard on the radio today that a town here in Nova Scotia is set to enact a by-law banning smoking in cars when there are persons under 18 riding along.

[CountArach]

I just heard on the radio today that a town here in Nova Scotia is set to enact a by-law banning smoking in cars when there are persons under 18 riding along.

It seems sensible to me. Children should not be forced to sit there and breathe in second hand smoke which may well give them Lung Cancer. Why should they pay for someone else's mistakes?

[Viking]

Not like if I care about pubs....but if I'm waiting at the bus...may they suffer from lung cancer.

[Andres]

I went for a pint last week, first time since the ban came in, although I packed in 2 years ago all the guys I was with were sat outside puffing away, so I sat with them rather than be a 'Billy Nomates' inside. Christ it was bloody freezing

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A pint you said? A pint of beer?

Mister, are you aware of the dangers of alcohol? Are you?

How about a drinking ban in pubs?

And with all the unhealthy food and fat nowadays, how about an eating ban in restaurants?

TEH BAN ! TEH BAN !

[KukriKhan]

I just heard on the radio today that a town here in Nova Scotia is set to enact a by-law banning smoking in cars when there are persons under 18 riding along.

Similar ordinance here failed in referendum, along with one banning smoking in dwellings with shared walls (apartments, condos, etc.). I hear/read that the measures will be voted on again next year, though.

I think it was in Germany, somebody decided to "calculate" the annual CO2 output of these fanned patios ...

I hadn't thought of that. I wonder how long before our tree-hugging non-smokers play that 'green' card. Our local beer & booze distributors are helping pub owners construct those fanned/heated patios (they can 'brand' the umbrellas, heaters and fans to defray the cost - the hard part is paying the city the extra "seat tax" - so many joints are making the patios Standing Room Only).

[Husar]

If it's legal to smoke in public and annoy other people whose noses might be sensible to the smell, shouldn't it also be legal to throw a teargas grenade into a bunch of smokers? I mean it's just a bit of smoke, innit? Doesn't kill you or so.
And my the attitude would be about the same as Viking's.

[Justiciar]

Bloody nanny-state nonsense s'what it is.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

If it's legal to smoke in public and annoy other people whose noses might be sensible to the smell, shouldn't it also be legal to throw a teargas grenade into a bunch of smokers? I mean it's just a bit of smoke, innit? Doesn't kill you or so.
And my the attitude would be about the same as Viking's.

Reminds me of a john cleese quote when asked if he minded if someone smokes, no, do you mind if i fart?

[lars573]

Similar ordinance here failed in referendum, along with one banning smoking in dwellings with shared walls (apartments, condos, etc.). I hear/read that the measures will be voted on again next year, though.

Well it more than likely passed 7-0 like the Mayor though it would. And will come into effect next year sometime. Probably April 1.

[KukriKhan]

Well it more than likely passed 7-0 like the Mayor though it would. And will come into effect next year sometime. Probably April 1.

You mean in Halifax, or Escondido?

[lars573]

Wolfville. I just heard another report about it today. And their Mayor is very confident that it will pass. (the vote is still upcoming) It also appears to be the first law of it's kind anywhere.

[Xiahou]

It seems sensible to me. Children should not be forced to sit there and breathe in second hand smoke which may well give them Lung Cancer. Why should they pay for someone else's mistakes?

They should also ban candy, pastries, video games and television in households with someone under 18 living there. All of those certainly do more harm to children than a little second hand smoke.

[CountArach]

They should also ban candy, pastries, video games and television in households with someone under 18 living there. All of those certainly do more harm to children than a little second hand smoke.

No so. Video games and Television have been proven to broaden the mind and improve the imagination. As to the candy and pastries, Parents should be keeping excess ammounts of these from their children in the first place, much like they should be with cigarettes.