Fatal Poison

[Bijo]

Very hazardous poison: women, a woman's cruelty, love. Once it enters your system, it is difficult to remove. It aches and aches, and there seems to be no cure, except more poison. And this external poison to battle the internal poison is still dangerous, as it might enter your system too/instead.

It is the time when I see no reason to exist. I have been -- almost an extreme -- follower -- more or less -- of Stoicism, and I have managed to control emotions, passions, desires, at will like a switch, and to be moral and logical. It takes much blood, sweat and toil to achieve these abilities. But when you take down your guard and allow these primitive things to take you, it is hell you'll get if you're not cautious and make mistakes, or even when you don't make mistakes.

When a woman leaves, it is like she's part of you and she takes it away. It makes functioning extremely difficult. At this moment I see no reason to exist, and in any case I'd see no reason to exist, but this.... this is plain cruelty. This is poison. This is pain. This is a woman's cruelty.

At this moment I am not worthy of the title Stoic, but I sense it is returning to me as I type. I see no other option or solution than to control those primitive conflicting aspects because when you control it, it does not control you. And when it does not control you, you will not be hindered by its negative effects. The downside is you will also -- most likely -- not be affected by potential positive effects, but this is a choice that is to be taken. Hopefully my Stoic nature will return to me and I will once more be the logical person unhindered by the negativity of emotion, passions, and desires.

[Caius]

What's the point?

I mean, humans feel. You can't live without thinking. You can't live for much longer if you don't feel. Do you understand?

[Reverend Joe]

Bijo:

Yeah, see, that's called burying all your emotions and it's NOT HEALTHY.

I did the same thing via computer for years. I'm not kidding. Spend six hours a day or more playing video games, and your ability to feel emotion will disappear. It also almost drove me insane and nearly destroyed my life.

To eliminate emotion is to destroy life itself. Life can be ugly, it's true. But it can also be beautiful. If you refuse to accept the pain and the beauty, you will kill your humanity, and thus your reason for existence. I mean, honestly, the only reason a human actually exists (in the material world -- I'm not going to argue about the spiritual, because it goes well beyond the point of what I am trying to say) is to breed. That's it. So you may as well find enjoyment here, because otherwise you will never advance philosophically beyond the simple existence of a breeding automaton. You will be useless and bleak. You will be nothing.

Edit: By the way, blaming the woman and calling her a poisonous animal is... well, it's just stupid. I can't think of an elegant way to say it. It's ignorant and blockheaded, not to mention incredibly elitist. Perhaps instead of calling an entire sex evil, you should reconsider your personal problem, and see if you were to blame. If not, well, she's just not a good person. There are far better people -- far better women -- out there. I have known a few in my time. Anyone can be beautiful or ugly. It's not a matter of sex. That's just Buddha's fallacy.

[woad&fangs]

^^^^
Agree completely

Or to summarize
"If it takes **** to make bliss, well then I feel pretty blissfully"-Modest Mouse

I stated in the backroom that I would rather spend an eternity suffering in hell then not exist or exist without emotions. That includes the emotions of sorrow and pain. I just can't understand why you are trying to achieve what to me is the worst possible fate a person could have.

Although I can see why she dumped you.

[Reverend Joe]

Although I can see why she dumped you.

I don't think that's gonna help, man... just sayin'.

[FactionHeir]

I guess there is some truth to the Greek mythology suggesting that Zeus created women as a curse for man.

[woad&fangs]

I don't think that's gonna help, man... just sayin'.

Who said that I was trying to help? His little Cynic/Stoic/Nihilist philosophy is getting on my nerves. And it is a fair point. Would you want to spend more than a minute with someone who's goal in life is to shove all of his feelings deep down inside and never let them out. Besides, what is he going to do? Get mad at me? I thought he was stoic. He shouldn't give a **** then.

[Bijo]

You boys seem to be assuming a lot without being certain what you say is true. How can you even say these things with just the information I provided?

And I did not call her a poisonous animal. Shut up, Reverend

Anyway, the situation was/is that we were both at fault. However, she has been the cruel one, not I. She is the one who always tried to manipulate using negative emotions and tools.

By the way, they find me quite the loveable social funny person in real life, as many would testify. You just don't see it here that much. As I said, it is a switch.

EDIT: therefore, w&f, you shut up especially

[woad&fangs]

My apologies then Bijo, But It felt nice to get rid of some pent up anger that I've had lately. So I thank you for that.

[Reverend Joe]

Well, you did say...

Very hazardous poison: women, a woman's cruelty, love. Once it enters your system, it is difficult to remove. It aches and aches, and there seems to be no cure, except more poison. And this external poison to battle the internal poison is still dangerous, as it might enter your system too/instead.

When a woman leaves, it is like she's part of you and she takes it away. It makes functioning extremely difficult. At this moment I see no reason to exist, and in any case I'd see no reason to exist, but this.... this is plain cruelty. This is poison. This is pain. This is a woman's cruelty.

so I extrapolated a little. Sorry if it went the wrong way.

But my point still stands. If you try to switch off your emotion when you feel unhappy, you're really just bottling up your unhappiness. Even if you still let the love through, that's not happy. I hate to say it, because I know how much it hurts to do it, but the best thing to do is feel the pain, to understand and work through it. If we never taste the bitter herbs, we will never appreciate the honey.

Anyway, maybe you should find a woman who is on her own philosophical pathway. It might work out better. Not to mention a woman who is honestly good, which isn't impossible; it just seems like it sometimes.

[Husar]

Spend six hours a day or more playing video games, and your ability to feel emotion will disappear.

*Looks at almost 55 hours of playtime on Steam past 2 weeks, then thinks of girls*

I wish it would at least be somewhat correct.
Maybe it works for you but definitely not for me, can distract me for a bit sometimes but when I'm really erm lovesick or so I don't even want to play.

I think Bijo is actually a nicer guy than he shows here.

I'm sorry for what happened but if she really tried to manipulate you in evil ways (if she tried to manipulate you to stop smoking that would be good ), let her go.

Generalising this is of course wrong, not all women are the same and there are some who are almost acceptable.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Playing or killing time at the 'puter helps delay the nuisance of daily life stress, a disturbing disease, a recent quarrel or such something. It may appease and relax your libido in a way or another temporarily too. But it never helps the agony of love diminish, let alone disappear.
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[Whacker]

I'd like to take the time to bring you the following message.

Thank you, that is all.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'd like to take the time to bring you the following message.

Thank you, that is all.

[RoadKill]

I'd like to take the time to bring you the following message.

Thank you, that is all.

Dude, I love Linkin Park.

And I know this is mean and everything but. Suck it up. There is children in Africa starving, children in China forced as Child Labor, people who are freezing on the streets.


PS: I think this thread will change you mind about women being poisen https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=43728

[Vuk]

Edit: By the way, blaming the woman and calling her a poisonous animal is... well, it's just stupid. I can't think of an elegant way to say it. It's ignorant and blockheaded, not to mention incredibly elitist. Perhaps instead of calling an entire sex evil, you should reconsider your personal problem, and see if you were to blame. If not, well, she's just not a good person. There are far better people -- far better women -- out there. I have known a few in my time. Anyone can be beautiful or ugly. It's not a matter of sex. That's just Buddha's fallacy.

I agree. I know a LOT of men and women (in about equal numbers...maybe slighter more on the side of women) who take great pleasure out of hurting other people and playing with their feelings. I have also had the great honor of knowing many excellent men and women who have genuine feelings and do not in anyway try to hurt the feelings of others. You cannot blame a sex, because there are bad people of each sex. There are a LOT of good women, just as there are a lot of good men.

[Vladimir]

Drink some 5' 9" poison and give us a vacation from all these threads.

[Husar]

And I know this is mean and everything but. Suck it up. There is children in Africa starving, children in China forced as Child Labor, people who are freezing on the streets.

Awww, please, pain and problems are usually relative.
What you're saying isn't really wrong but just because others have a bad life does not mean that Bijo's pain doesn't count or does not hurt him.

[Mouzafphaerre]

Awww, please, pain and problems are usually relative.
What you're saying isn't really wrong but just because others have a bad life does not mean that Bijo's pain doesn't count or does not hurt him.

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[RoadKill]

Its just my two cents. The only way I get over these things is saying to myself, there's always someone else in the world thats life is more screwed up them mine. And I'm all happy again. Or If i'm really sad , I just pop in my Janet Jackson CD, and ta dah!

[Fragony]

I agree. I know a LOT of men and women (in about equal numbers...maybe slighter more on the side of women) who take great pleasure out of hurting other people and playing with their feelings. I have also had the great honor of knowing many excellent men and women who have genuine feelings and do not in anyway try to hurt the feelings of others. You cannot blame a sex, because there are bad people of each sex. There are a LOT of good women, just as there are a lot of good men.

Yep. I have known some truly evil manipulating harpies but also the most cutest honeyboney's you cannot help to love. I do have an in-the-sack preferation though.

[Husar]

Yep. I have known some truly evil manipulating harpies but also the most cutest honeyboney's you cannot help to love. I do have an in-the-sack preferation though.

May I inquire what exactly that means you prefer?

[Fragony]

May I inquire what exactly that means you prefer?

Can't stand cute, it's so.... cute. I like the wild ones, soldier needs battle