Zeal & the Orthodox

[jp1747]

I have a question about zeal in Orthodox provinces as my Crusades always take a manpower hit when passing through Byzantine provinces. Obviously, they aren't going to gain more troops when they pass through, but if the zeal in an Orthodox province is very high, will it reduce the amount of men who desert the Crusade when passing through? My guess is that there isn't an impact either way but I think it's interesting.

[Gilrandir]

I have a question about zeal in Orthodox provinces as my Crusades always take a manpower hit when passing through Byzantine provinces.

Don't pass through. Bypass. I prefer to pass NO provinces when I crusade. Use the ship chains to deliver your crusade directly to the target province.

[jp1747]

I like to march through the other Catholic regions to acquire unique troops from time to time. I sometimes use the ship chain route but it can also be hard to do early in game. I'm playing as the English on BKB Super Mod and a ship chain from Wessex to Antioch was pretty hard with Egyptian ships everywhere. Anyway, that's not really my question because I'm aware of ship chains, I was just wondering if high zeal in Orthodox provinces makes any difference, though I doubt it.

[drone]

Welcome to the Org, jp1747!

I'm not sure if zeal works with the majority religion in the province, the owning faction's culture, or if it's agnostic and gives benefits/penalties regardless. My guess is that it's either the first or second, but I've never done any research to verify it.

[Zajuts149]

i think zeal mostly applies to the majority religion, as it sometimes take some time to grow after you change it.
As for zeal working for orthodox, it does. In my personal mod, I have taken away zeal-raising from inquisitors, and given it to Cardinals and Orthodox bishops. I find that generally, a region with high zeal produces better stats, both piety and acumen, and good traits comes more often. It's sometimes hard in the beginning to find good administrators, but after zeal has been raised to 70+, there is usually good characters coming out.

[I of the Storm]

Interesting, I've never heard about a correlation between high zeal and good v&v's / stats.
Not doubting your words Zajuts149, but can someone confirm that?

[Trapped in Samsara]

I find that generally, a region with high zeal produces better stats, both piety and acumen, and good traits comes more often. It's sometimes hard in the beginning to find good administrators, but after zeal has been raised to 70+, there is usually good characters coming out.

Hi

I have not noticed (or even suspected) any such correlation, nor have I ever read anything along these lines. I'm not dismissing the possibility, but if (as I believe is generally agreed) zeal cannot be 'cultivated' by orthodox factions then the vanilla game would be significantly biased against them, no?

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[Martok]

I can't say I've really noticed a correlation with improved Acumen or better V&V's, although I've admittedly not paid particular attention either. However, I will say I've long noticed high-zeal provinces seem to produce unit leaders with higher-than-average Piety.

[Ironside]

I can't say I've really noticed a correlation with improved Acumen or better V&V's, although I've admittedly not paid particular attention either. However, I will say I've long noticed high-zeal provinces seem to produce unit leaders with higher-than-average Piety.

They also have more zeal/piety related v&v. But that's about it afaik.