Out of character thread XIX

[Zim]

Which ones aren't Counts? Aside from Swabia I think most of the active players have a county already.

GH I'm not sure von Salza ever gave Cervole a county (or Welf for that matter).

Considering most of the Illuminati are not even Counts while the Imperials all have titles, it would make sense.

Oh and Ruppel will join the Imperials of course.

[Zim]

*points to sig*

Count of Zagreb.

Bruh?

We have two Dukes, a Viceroy, and a Count. Our supporters are two Counts (Cervole and Bohmen), and I don't know about the Zirns but I imagine Arnold will Count them very quickly if they're not already.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, well, the point I was trying to make was that the actual Brotherhood had a decent collection of titles.

[FactionHeir]

Cervole is a knight, not a count. Böhmen lsot his title by going against the Duke.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, but the point was that he was a Count before he sided with us.

Naturally you'll lose your title going against a Duke, as I learned firsthand with you.

[Zim]

Part of Böhmen's deal with von Salza way back was that he would retain his County. Anyway, I don't think Böhmen has picked a side. He has a history of antagonism with Hapsburg over Bruges but as far as I can tell hasn't picked a side yet.

Cervole is a knight, not a count. Böhmen lsot his title by going against the Duke.

[TinCow]

I have a feeling the Imperials will end up with at least a slight advantage in numbers, but that's somewhat appropriate IMO. It's not supposed to be easy to overthrow an Emperor.

[FactionHeir]

Yeah, but the point was that he was a Count before he sided with us.

Naturally you'll lose your title going against a Duke, as I learned firsthand with you.

Well, to be fair, Dassel was never a Count anyway. Hans just skipped him during promotion time

Oh, and remember how you said we wouldn't be against each other again with our new characters? Well, looks like we will have Hans vs Dassel MKII

[GeneralHankerchief]

True, but this time at least it's not as personal.

[Ramses II CP]

Actually von Salza officially gave his nobles Counties, Econ just hasn't returned to make official notice of it yet. Warluster PM'd me about it a few days ago, you know, back when I thought de Cervole was on my side.

[Ignoramus]

Hapsburg chose the Imperialist, because, well, he's a Hapsburg. Any other choice wouldn't be right. Besides, I've had enough of rebellion at the moment.

We should start a thread up posting our thoughts or any secret knowledge we have of the game. For example, Chancellors could post whether they were biased against certain houses etc.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Anybody else wanna take over Illuminati Diet Duty? I'm kind of tired of all this pontificating for the moment.

[Ramses II CP]

I'm on it!

Wait, it's okay if the Illuminati announce they intend to sacrifice all their allies to Nyarlathotep, right?

[Zim]

I would but I'm a bit out of the loop secret organizationwise.

*Rolls up magazine and hits Ramses on the nose*
No, bad Ramses, no.

Anybody else wanna take over Illuminati Diet Duty? I'm kind of tired of all this pontificating for the moment.

[Warluster]

Wait, wait, wait... Did someone says Hughes is a Illumanti?

And is Fritz Illumanti?

I'm a bit confused with whose is on whose sides.

Though if you can't tell mine then...

Part of Böhmen's deal with von Salza way back was that he would retain his County.

That's of he stayed loyal to Swabia and his Duke.

[Zim]

Fritz is on Peter's side, Hugo de Cervole joined the Illuminati.

I don't think you can take Bohmen's title away for picking the other side, at least not so far as the final battle and the amount of troops he gets for it is concerned. Otherwise you could end up with some silly things.

Just imagine if you were allowed to strip the titles of any Swabian Republicans. Then the Illuminati responds by electing their own Swabian Duke, who attempts to strip all Imperialist Swabians of their titles. Meanwhile, Duke Arnold and the traitor Hapsburg try to strip eachother and the Austrians on each side of all of their titles.

This might all be proper (and amusing ) were it to occur IC only, but if also applied to the final battle it would be a giant headache for Econ21 when allocating troops, especially since each side will claim to have more legitamacy than the other.

Wait, wait, wait... Did someone says Hughes is a Illumanti?

And is Fritz Illumanti?

I'm a bit confused with whose is on whose sides.

Though if you can't tell mine then...



That's of he stayed loyal to Swabia and his Duke.

[AussieGiant]

As far as I know all Austrian nobles are "titled up" and have been for some time...except for Hapsburg who Igno OOC dropped out just before I was going to give him Venice.

The last change was Johann dying and Max getting Vienna.

That of course still leaves Venice and Ragusa under Arnold's direct control.

And Zim,

I'm a little perturb that after so many write up's and working on Arnold's dread for so long I can be less threatening that Peter

As for titles and the ability to strip and counter strip each other, then it makes no difference at this time in my opinion. It's all just points of view. I only say this due to the relative equality of the situation.

[Zim]

Actually, Arnold is more frightening than Peter, hence Mr. "faltering courage" Jan Zirn prefers to fight with him against Peter.

[AussieGiant]

Actually, Arnold is more frightening than Peter, hence Mr. "faltering courage" Jan Zirn prefers to fight with him against Peter.

Well, at some point I did reach a cross road with him Zim. If anyone does go back and reads all his stuff then you will see a point where the stories got more and more gruesome, but then I realised he could not be construed as "evil" by definition and still function inside the game and as a noble of the Reich.

What I settled on was just as you described. He is frightening but only to those that oppose him. That is what I was aiming for. Of course this can only be effectively written for non player characters. Player characters have to decide themselves how to react to him.

[Zim]

I think you've managed perfectly to create a memorable persona for Arnold.

I have to admit, having only seen the Duke from outside the Austrian Duchy, I was quite surprised at first when I began to notice that he treats those he worked with very differently than others.

[AussieGiant]

I think you've managed perfectly to create a memorable persona for Arnold.

I have to admit, having only seen the Duke from outside the Austrian Duchy, I was quite surprised at first when I began to notice that he treats those he worked with very differently than others.

Indeed. Only those inside the Duchy really saw that. On the outside and even with the rest of the Reich he was substantially different.

Our Austrian PM's at election times was always an example of the contrast. Of course you never saw those and not many Player Characters did.

Of course I'm not talking about any Illuminati work being done behind, behindm, behind the scenes.

[Ignoramus]

I've only just realised how much I'd missed the intrigue of KotR. We must start up a successor game when it's finally over. It's amazing what this does to a standard single-player campaign of TW.

[TinCow]

I have a feeling that the next game we do will fit your play style perfectly, Ignoramus.

[Ignoramus]

There isn't a mod called Hummel: Total War is there?

[_Tristan_]

I can't wait to get a fresh start on any new game... I waited too long to join this one...

It was pretty intimidating seen from the outside

[TinCow]

Updated Tally:

Imperial:
Peter von Kastilien
Fritz von Kastilien
Maximilian von Hapsburg
Athalwolf von Salza
Ehrhart Ruppel
Maximillian Zirn
Tancred von Tyrolia

Illuminati:
Arnold
Lothar Steffen
Matthias Steffen
Herrman Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Warmaster Horus (No current avatar)

Neutral:
Edmund Becker
Dieter Bresch

Undecided:
Ludwig von Bohmen

[AussieGiant]

Updated Tally:

Imperial:
Peter von Kastilien
Fritz von Kastilien
Maximilian von Hapsburg
Athalwolf von Salza
Ehrhart Ruppel
Maximillian Zirn

Illuminati:
Arnold
Lothar Steffen
Matthias Steffen
Herrman Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Warmaster Horus (No current avatar)

Neutral:
Edmund Becker

Undecided:
Ludwig von Bohmen

Looks nice and even. I thought Ludwig decided already?

[TinCow]

I can't tell from the way he's writing IC. deguerra can clarify.

I would expect that Dieter Bresch and Tancred von Tyrolia will also go Imperial, so it should be a pretty even battle. The only other people remaining are those without avatars that I sent PMs to.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm so the Zirns split?

[TinCow]

I'll take Dieter's spit as a vote for the Imperials.