Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Interesting. Look at the list of people voting for dutch guy (and keep sigurd out of it)

Dutch Guy:14 (Hiji,Craterus, Mak, KukriKhan, Husar, BKS, CA, BSR, Charge, EMFM,T'blade, LittleGrizzly, Prole, Joe Monks)

Some of the others are questionable as well...


And Sigurd, what is your defense exactly? The FBI detective isn't an FBI detective? Your innocent because me and CR pm'd you on the same day? That when I supplied you with the names of people who were looking for a group I was trying to prevent you from forming a group? What were you doing on all the nights previous?

[KukriKhan]

So, you've changed your mind on Dutch_Guy since here?

DG and tran are still going to have to be priority unless they die tonight.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm gosh that's suspicious of me, can't think what made decide that sigurd was a priority instead...wait a minute I seem to remember something about an FBI detective saying something about a mafia don...

[KukriKhan]

Not suspicious, just inconsistent.

Comparing an alleged FBI detective's report to a self-admitted killer of an almost-but-not-yet decimated mafia family... I agree Sigurd merits suspicion, but, IMO ridding our streets of a killer who will kill again tonight is a higher-priority action. Even if Sigurd is a Don, he won't personally kill tonight.

[Andres]

Ridding yourself of the last remaining mafiosi of a nearly defeated family vs. ridding yourself of the Don of a family that is able to perform multiple hits each night.

I know I'm biased, but if I were town, I would know who to vote

What more do you need? A confirmed pro town player (Jimbob) who gives you the FBI DETECTIVE'S RESULTS on several mafia family members, including a Don, yet you guys keep focusing on the lonely survivor of a defeated family

No pressure whatsoever on any of the suspects named by Jimbob, except for Sigurd

What is this? Where are the townies in this game?

[Proletariat]

Get with the Fatlington townie program, Kukri. It's a tradition since something like N2 to lynch suspicious players while confirmed mafia roams freely.

[KukriKhan]

Get with the Fatlington townie program, Kukri. It's a tradition since something like N2 to lynch suspicious players while confirmed mafia roams freely.

[Andres]

Poor Sasaki. All this effort to find more mafia and lynch them, yet the majority of the townies (?) prefer to focus on the only family that matters in this game:

The Stracci stars!

[FactionHeir]

Is this some moderator-only page or so?
Still wondering what Glenn meant by his last message...

Oh, and what can a dead person still do and say?

[Charge]

hmmmm ..... Unclear result from FBI on Ichigo?

The investigation will list the individual as innocent (Townie, Don), criminal (Luca, Made not killing, Wise Guy not having killed at all, and some townies), or guilty

[Andres]

Oh, and what can a dead person still do and say?

The dead may post, but not vote/select nor carry out any night actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately until that role has been revealed as per section V and may not reveal their “familiy” or role particulars even after that time. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Remember, even if dead you can still score well provided your “side” achieves victory. Your participation must be circumspect, but your continued participation IS encouraged.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Not suspicious, just inconsistent.

Comparing an alleged FBI detective's report to a self-admitted killer of an almost-but-not-yet decimated mafia family... I agree Sigurd merits suspicion, but, IMO ridding our streets of a killer who will kill again tonight is a higher-priority action. Even if Sigurd is a Don, he won't personally kill tonight.

If a couple people switched we could lynch both. Sigurd is more important because don's can't be vig killed.

[Sigurd]

And Sigurd, what is your defense exactly? The FBI detective isn't an FBI detective? Your innocent because me and CR pm'd you on the same day? That when I supplied you with the names of people who were looking for a group I was trying to prevent you from forming a group? What were you doing on all the nights previous?

You told me you were totally against vig groups. Are you afraid that we might stumble on some of your henchmen?
I did mention that keeping a contact with a Made would incriminate you. And it still does.

The FBI agent investigations on me are all a hoax and I know this because someone gave me some information on how the real FBI investigations work (and it was not from a made).
Apparently the FBI agent only has a 1/36 chance in finding a Don. If the FBI agent does a double investigation on the same player it is reduced to a 1/18 chance. In other words it would be pointless to do double investigations.
Since I know I am not a Don I must conclude that JimBob got this information from someone working for the mafia.
And since the only two players still pushing this theory is Sasaki and CR.. I must therefore also conclude that they are mafia.

And I didn't see Louis move away from his allegations that CR was a Don. Louis should publically do so for all of us to see.

[Dutch_guy]

Guys, can't we try for a double lynch ?

[Sigurd]

Vote:Dutch_guy

[Dutch_guy]

You realise that vote was completely unnecessary considering the current tally, right?

[Myrddraal]

hmmmm ..... Unclear result from FBI on Ichigo?

JimBob clearly has more than one detective contact. Look at the no of investigations.

On that note:

Any news from JimBob on the reliability of his source?

[ajaxfetish]

Why, oh why is anyone listening to Andres' comments on voting and tallies? How many times has he lied to throw off the tally? How many times has he helped Dutch Guy successfully avoid the noose for another day? How many nights (including recently) have the Stracchi's attempted or committed murder? (every one)

Andres makes one post 'pointing out' a BKS vote for Dutch Guy, and it makes it into every tally since. BKS hasn't posted in this thread since February 6 (15 days ago). Andres has been trying to throw suspicion on BKS to divert attention from the Stracchis and using him as one of his fake votes to mess up the tally. BKS has not voted for Dutch Guy, and DG's numbers according to the current tally are at least one vote higher than they really are (so if you try for a double lynch he'll get off once again).

Please. Please take BKS off the tally. Please someone go back and double-check all the other votes to make sure Andres or others aren't continually succeeding in messing up town coordination. And please, by all means ignore Andres' 'helpful' suggestions on the tally from this point forward. There's no excuse for letting Dutch Guy survive another day.



And this, DG, is absolutely classic!

Guys, can't we try for a double lynch ?

Ajax

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Day 7 voting selection is concluded. I will go back and establish an actual count.

Night PM's may begin, and are due no later than 1300 22 Feb 08 (1800 GMT).

[Crazed Rabbit]

The FBI agent investigations on me are all a hoax and I know this because someone gave me some information on how the real FBI investigations work (and it was not from a made).
Apparently the FBI agent only has a 1/36 chance in finding a Don. If the FBI agent does a double investigation on the same player it is reduced to a 1/18 chance. In other words it would be pointless to do double investigations.

More anonymous sources. You clearly don't trust me, but JimBob is confirmed pro-town. So why don't you send your contact name to him so JimBob can find out the truth?

And how do you know this person who gave you the 'real' info is speaking truthfully? If he's the FBI detective, let him contact JimBob.

Now, on the one hand we have a confirmed townie saying the FBI detective told him Sigurd is Don Corleone.

We have that accused don saying it's false, accusing his attackers of being mafia, and then producing 'evidence', which conveniently no one else can see.

Sasaki - we can vig kill Dons if their lucas aren't protecting them and are trying to kill instead. Even a luca protection would provide yet more evidence Sigurd is the don.

CR

[Myrddraal]

If he's the FBI detective, let him contact JimBob.

And on that note, if there are any FBI detectives out there not in touch with JimBob, I think they should take the plunge and get in touch. JimBob has provided us with a lynch list. If this list prooves to be false we won't have much time to win the game once we're done lynching the false suspects.

So it's do or die I think. Genuine detectives should get in touch with JimBob. If it turns out JimBob is manipulating the town, then very well played to him, but I somehow doubt it given Glenn's post mortem.

[Csargo]

I quit.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

“I can feel them, they're here.
The howling winds of war.
You can sense them.
They are bad omens.
You can see the death dealing hordes….
There's no reason.
There's no rhyme.
They will bring eternal night.
Oh no!
It's too late to turn back now.
A soldier lives to die.”
-- Yngwie Malmsteen



Sunset, Day Seven


The discussion at the evening meeting involved interesting revelations, claims and counter claims. The voting itself, despite a lot of confusion in the counting, ended up with a clear result.

“The committee has chosen death for Dutch_guy,” said JimBob. “That sentence will be carried out imm….”

JimBob whipped up a Buntline special from the podium and in one fluid motion shot Dutch-guy in the middle of the face.

“ediately.”

Dutch-guy’s lifeless body collapsed like a puppet with its strings cut. Blood leaked out of both ears as well as the shattered hole that had replaced Dutch’s nose. The Director apparently did not favor full metal jackets for his ammunition.

“I will continue as Director, courtesy of your support. Guard yourselves well, for I assure you that our task is not yet complete.”

JimBob gaveled the meeting to a close. The Committee shuffled out, more than a little disturbed by the sudden conclusion to the meeting – even though a clear majority had voted that way.

Night arrived with yet another series of thunderstorms. The skies themselves mirrored the mood below. Few intended to “go gently” into that good night.


OOC

1. As Noted before, Night PMs will be accepted up to 1300 22 Feb 08 (1800GMT)

2. Lynch Vote Tally:

Dutch_guy = 14 (BSR, Charge, CA, Crate, EMM, Hiji, Husar, Joe, Kukri, Griz, Mak, Prole, Sig, TB) 1 unbolded vote by Ciaus as well.

Sigurd Fafnesbane = 10 (Cow, CR, Kage, Myrd, North, Sara, Scott, Tin, Tran, Xeh)

Crazed Rabbit = 1 (Shlin)

3. Selection Vote Tally:

Didn’t bother, not worth counting.

[Caius]

because don's can't be vig killed.

Yes, they can if their Luca dont protect him doing something the same night.

[Andres]

Andres makes one post 'pointing out' a BKS vote for Dutch Guy, and it makes it into every tally since. BKS hasn't posted in this thread since February 6 (15 days ago). Andres has been trying to throw suspicion on BKS to divert attention from the Stracchis and using him as one of his fake votes to mess up the tally. BKS has not voted for Dutch Guy, and DG's numbers according to the current tally are at least one vote higher than they really are (so if you try for a double lynch he'll get off once again).

Please. Please take BKS off the tally.

At least one of you guys is awake while reading the thread...

Well spotted ajaxfetish

[Ferret]

dang missed votes :(

[JimBob]

Alright, everyone check your tallies. Seems our friends in the mob are messing with them to throw us off.

To Sigurd: I do trust my FBI man. I'm as sure of him as I am of anyone else in this game.

Our results are based on solid detective work.

On that note:
Anymore detectives in the woodwork? Come out and play. Doctors too.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Mafia status as of N6:

--Stracchi. Don: Omanes A. (dead), Luca: Dutch Guy, Made: Andres (dead), Former associated wise guy: LouisVI, associated wise guy or made: Tran (according to Louis, Omanes, and JimBob). Calling Card: Pink ballet slippers. Victims: Drisos (detective, N1), Pannonian (wise guy, N3), Motep (N5), Louis VI (N6), attempted hits on GH (N2, N3) and Proletariat (N4, possible Don).

--Corleone. Don: Sigurd (according to JimBob's contacts), Luca: Unknown, Made: Tiberius of the Drake (dead), several unknown associated wise guys. Calling Card: Weather balloons and religious paraphernalia. Victims: Glenn (crusader?, N3), Beefy (townie, N3), The Stranger (townie, N3), GH (N4, wise guy), attempted hits on Glenn (N2) and Proletariat (N4, N5, N6?, possible Don).

--Tataglia. Family member: Makayane (according to JimBob's contacts)

--Barzini.

--Cunnio.

Yellow rose group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: Yellow rose and a preference for explosives. Victims: Zorg (wise guy, N3), Moros (N4, wise guy or wolf-type character), Lt. Pinard (N6), possible attempted hit on Proletariat (N4).

Italian Destiny group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: an Italian phrase (destiny is inexorable). Victims: Kamikhaan (N5), ajaxfetish (N6).

Other possible calling cards: A black rose was left with Chimpyang's corpse (N5). A white rose was dropped by CR's attempted assailant (N6).

The Stracchi's managed additional hits nights 5 and 6, with both Omanes and Andres dead. I'm assuming Dutch Guy was one of the killers, but he'd need an accomplice, so it's likely Tran is in action along with DG. Louis is clearly not acting in conjunction with the remnants of the family (as they offed him night 6).

Tonight it seems the Corleone's were either inactive (shocker!) or were responsible only for the attempted hit on Prole (as syringes were involved). Might some of their members have been victims in recent nights?

The Tataglia have responded to the Corleones' call for truce, according to TosaInu's second relayed communication.

Omanes suspected Sigurd to be the don of the Barzinis, JimBob is sure he is the don of the Corleones.

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Musings:

xdeathfire and twilightblade have both fled to the police immediately after being attacked (xdeath on N1, twilight on N5). They may have a similar role, and this action would seem to suggest it's a pro-town one.

Lone killers with calling cards or consistent modi operandi
--.577 Webley. A rogue killer of unknown motivation. A single individual using the same weapon shot both Kommodus (N4, luca) and Woad&Fangs (N5).
--King of Hearts. Another lone killer is operating, using knives and leaving King of Hearts playing cards. He participated in killing Woad & Fangs (N5) and Louis VI (N6). In both cases he was not the only killer involved (the .577 Webley guy also targeted Kommodus and the Stracchis also targeted Louis), yet in both cases each of the killers seemed surprised the other was there. This knife wielder has left the words 'dead rat' and 'traitor' on the cards he has left behind, so may be a mafia-aligned character whose objective is killing those who turn on the mafia from within. This is clearly the case for Louis, though Kommodus story is less clear. There is nothing I know of publicly to suggest Kommodus has betrayed his family. However, Sasaki has had access to mafia investigation results (until recently, it seems) and it has been stated in the thread that Kommodus hates playing mafia. Could he have been passing on his family's investigation results to Sasaki? If he were discovered doing so it would explain his killing as a mafia traitor, and his death would explain Sasaki's lack of recent investigation results. Would Sasaki care to confirm or deny this hypothesis?

CR's attack sounded like an attempted mafia hit, but with only one member getting in their orders on time.

Prole continues to be defended by a single individual (either a luca facing relentless but futile attempts on her life or a doctor who's found a seemingly-guaranteed target with which to achieve surgeon status).

Craterus also seemed to be defended by a single individual (I don't know if he had enough public likelihood of attack to justify a doctor's attention) and attacked by two (possibly a mafia group whose calling card just wasn't found).

Society for Creative Anachronism. The medieval connection here is getting weirder and weirder. First we have our holy trio (now down to just our director JimBob), then the Corleones take up religious themes in their killings, and now we have unknown dudes in full crusader getup killing people in the streets. Both a collection of 4 with black crosses and a lone gunman with a red cross targeted FactionHeir. They seemed not to be acting together, but the coincidence of two independent groups targeting the same victim and choosing to wear late medieval religiously-themed military costume is a little overwhelming. What's up with this kill?

My own death. Well, I lasted 6 nights in this my first mafia game, only to fall victim to the Italian Destiny group, whichever family it may be. I was pro-town, but I see no special reason why I was targeted. My night activity was lacklustre at best and my only significant contribution by day (besides voting) is summarizing the nights events and what we seem to know about the mafia families as of yet. This I can do whether I'm alive or dead. Perhaps I was just an easy kill as I seemed likely to be pro-town and unlikely to be protected. Anyhow, it's a shame my trusty radio had to die with me, but good luck to my surviving neighbors. May the Fatlington mafia enjoy the cold sleep of the grave.

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Post-mortem results:

10 pro-town
Townie: Lord Winter, Beefy, taka, the Stranger, FahadI, killfr3nzy, Sapi, Xiahou
Detective: Drisos
Crusader?: Glenn

7 neutral
Wise Guy: Pevergreen, Hannibal, Pannonian, Zorg, GH, x-Danger, Moros (though Moros may be an unaffiliated mafia member)

3 mafia
Made: Tiberius (Corleone)
Luca: Kommodus (family unknown)
Don: Omanes (Stracchi)

Ajax

That was a great post, Ajax. Some quick stuff, haven't gone over it all thoroughly:

Mafia status as of N6:

--Stracchi. Don: Omanes A. (dead), Luca: Dutch Guy, Made: Andres (dead), Former associated wise guy: LouisVI, associated wise guy or made: Tran (according to Louis, Omanes, and JimBob). Calling Card: Pink ballet slippers. Victims: Drisos (detective, N1), Pannonian (wise guy, N3), Motep (N5), Louis VI (N6), attempted hits on GH (N2, N3) and Proletariat (N4, possible Don).

Tran was a wiseguy on N3. Klled Panno with me. Don't know what Tran is up to now.

Hit on Proletariat (innocent) on N4 was probably the balloon mafia.

Andres(made) and Omanes(don) were both dead on N5. Yet the murder of Motep on n5 had 'pink ballet slippers'. And was performed by three people. I don't get it. Did Dutch become don and recruited a third member? Did a wiseguy group take over the pink ballet emblem?

The cowardly murder of Louis 6 on N VI was, according to Dutch, performed by Dutch himself. Together with one other person. The 'pink ballet' poofte...er, mafia emblem of the Straccchi's was absent though.

--Corleone. Don: Sigurd (according to JimBob's contacts), Luca: Unknown, Made: Tiberius of the Drake (dead), several unknown associated wise guys. Calling Card: Weather balloons and religious paraphernalia. Victims: Glenn (crusader?, N3), Beefy (townie, N3), The Stranger (townie, N3), GH (N4, wise guy), attempted hits on Glenn (N2) and Proletariat (N4, N5, N6?, possible Don).

--Tataglia. Family member: Makayane (according to JimBob's contacts)

Same as I heard. Same source too no doubt.

--Cunnio.

Teh big guess

--Barzini.

This is the 'rose' group. All coloured roses are from the same group, the Barzini's. So, these hits below are all from the same, rather powerful, family:

Other possible calling cards: A black rose was left with Chimpyang's corpse (N5). A white rose was dropped by CR's attempted assailant (N6).

Yellow rose group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: Yellow rose and a preference for explosives. Victims: Zorg (wise guy, N3), Moros (N4, wise guy or wolf-type character), Lt. Pinard (N6), possible attempted hit on Proletariat (N4).

The possible attempted hit on Proletariat (town) I've never figured out either. There is both a balloon and a rose, which is just odd.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Proletariat left the wine bar that evening in good spirits, a gentle sense of euphoria – and her trusty umbrella -- carrying her through the rain in comfort. Though it was a dark and stormy night, darkness held little terror for Proletariat, and she refused to let the threat hanging over everyone in Fatlington prevent her from living her life as she wished. With a firm step, she turned toward the little park near the end of the boardwalk, intending to talk a brief walk among the trees and walk home on the boardwalk with its view of the dark Atlantic.

As she left the park and climbed the stairs to the boardwalk, she felt a stinging sensation in her neck. She grabbed quickly at the spot, only to find what appeared to be a sharpened dart with a single, perfect yellow rose attached. Proletariat knew what was coming, and ran for home. Amazed to have outrun whoever was pursuing her, she gratefully slammed the door and bolted it behind her. Then she thought about her neck.

<>

Turning over the dart in her hand, Prole’ noticed that the small yellow rose to find it rolled in some sort of paper. She unrolled it -- it seemed to go on forever – but finally came to a simple message. "JUST KIDDING" was written in bold letters.

<>

But she never finished the thought. She heard the hissing, smelled chloroform and then…

Proletariat awoke an hour or so later back in her favorite little park. Her head was resting on a pillow and someone had erected a tarp to shield her from the rain. As she looked around, the scene got even weirder. The tree nearest her had been defaced with a message carved into the bark, "Blessings are for the head of the just, but a rod for the back of the fool," her feet were stapled to the ground with what appeared to be horseshoes and her neck was clenched in a wire noose attached to a – deflated – weather balloon.

After freeing herself from the noose – someone had thoughtfully cut the ropes binding her hands – Proletariat noticed that the balloon had been deflated with a shotgun just before it would have yanked her upright to her death. She couldn’t make much sense of what was written on the balloon – “ncetnoni” – but she was grateful for whomever, or whatever, had saved her from a grisly death. It would be an hour before she could pry up the “staples” holding her in place.

That's an anagram of ‘I-N-N-O-C-E-N-T’. Maybe a hello from Ichigo to Sasaki? The other way round?
I'ver never understood it. There's both a yellow rose and a balloon. Also, the same night the balloons made what looks like a single-man hit on Proletariat:

<> thought Proletariat. She’d developed a taste for the stuff while serving a stint as a nurse during the first year of the occupation. Tonight had been horrific enough to where she needed her own brand of comfort food along with just a bit of sake – at the proper temperature. She called Yoshioka-san – there was exactly one authentic Japanese style resteraunt in Fatlington, the Backroom at Yoshi’s tap house where a priviledged few were served the cuisine they’d come to love – and asked to come by for a very late dinner.

Nearly 2 hours later, Proletariat was walking through a dark and quiet Fatlington, a little apprehensive to be out again on her own, but warmed by the glow of warm sake and delicate sashimi. The desire for sushi makes one take strange chances – and in this case a dangerous chance.

She was nearly home when she saw a man standing in front of her apartment house, carrying what looked like at least half a dozen red and green balloons. She gave a little gasp as her warm dinner suddenly surged in a desire to reverse course.

<>

Proletariat forced herself to steady. Her right hand rested on the semi automatic in her coat pocket – thumbing off the safety. It was locked and loaded (she’d taken to leaving a round chambered) and she was a good shot. If this man meant harm, she’d do what was needful.

”Care for a balloon, miss,” said the stranger spoke, with a difficult to place European accent? “I’d suggest a green one, matches your eyes perfectly!”

“No. Now step aside.”

“Ma’am,” said the stranger questioningly, his face assuming a “hurt puppy-dog” look. “A red one perhaps?”

“Get that f…” Prole caught herself. Surely this man meant no harm? He certainly looked harmless enough. Plus, nothing a shot to the head wouldn’t solve.

“I find I don’t like balloons much, anymore. No thank you.”

”With my compliments then,” said the man, extending a green balloon her way. Prole involuntarily backed up a few steps, taking her into the street.

Some 70 yards away, a pale man waiting in his car saw Proletariat back into the street, gunned the engine and slammed the car into gear. << Can’t believe it’s almost over,>> the driver thought. <> The car quickly ate the distance between itself and Prole.’

Prole glance at the car, then noticed that the balloon salesman was blocking the space between cars she’d just come through – she was trapped! Prole cleared her semi automatic smoothly, but it was too late. She heard the “balloon” salesman shouting “Sayonara” as she turned to take a desperate shot at the car.

Which slammed to a sudden and unexpected stop less than 50 feet away. Somehow, someone in a car only 30 feet away had nudged the nose of their vehicle into the street just in time to absorb the killing impact meant for Proletariat.

The balloon salesman flung his change belt at Proletariat as a distraction and ducked into the doorway of the store they’d been standing near. A planned escape route got him safely away. The driver of the kill car, cursing failure, slammed his car into reverse before Proletariat could get off a clear shot and made it out of sight. The car was abandoned shortly thereafter. Prole’ never saw the driver who’d blocked her death. She went home to spend a sleepless night.

Italian Destiny group (whichever family it may be). Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: an Italian phrase (destiny is inexorable). Victims: Kamikhaan (N5), ajaxfetish (N6).

?

[Louis VI the Fat]

To the extent of my knowledge (which isn't very far mind you) Sasaki has been proven innocent and didn't he go rogue detective? So I don't see the point of naming any names unless its the name of a proven Don, a.k.a. you

Hohoho...

Sasaki has 'gone rogue detective? You mean, Sasaki is claiming to be a rogue detective?

First, Sasaki has a made who's name he refuses to share, to this day, for one reason or the other. And now, he is running around claiming to be a rogue detective to people?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I have never claimed to be rogue detective. Not this game anyway. And you don't have to worry about the made. I'm just sayin, there weren't any investigation results today...