2-handed bug?

[Emperor[1G]]

Im patched up to 1.3 for vanilla MTW2 as far as Im aware, and I read somewhere recently that 2-handed inf units like the Varangians and Dismounted English knights etc. don't do damage for some reason. Are the 2-handed inf units bugged or is this misinformation? Ive been unable to find a definitive answer.
Thanks guys.

[Iavorios]

Well, ther is a 2 handers bug, but in 1.03 it is fixed, to sam point at least. Alltough many of the units perform below their oficial stats, they are of some use. The problem is that the diferent units have diferent level of improvemt. But basicly try not use much of the 2 handers, exept maybe Janichary heavy infantry and tabarbareyars (or somthing like that). They work fine. The problem with 2 handed units is in their slow animation, and slow attack speed. Now in Kingdoms (but not in the grand campain) this is fixed, allmost complitly. You can use the retrofit mod to fix your crand campain, but br awere that this will make your cavalery units to the sice of 30, not 40.
By the way you DON'T need dismounted english knights anyway, you have one of the best heavy infantry units in the game- armored swordsmen.

[FactionHeir]

Afaik Kingdoms/Retrofit does not fit 2H bugs but rather lowers the defense ratings of most units, thus making each of their attacks a kill.

The 2H bug affecting halberds, 2H hammers and 2H axes, and to a very small extent 2H swords basically is that those units attack very slowly and their attack animation gets interrupted due to auto-blocking animations against faster attack weapons. In addition to that, 2 of their 4 attack animations are harmless against infantry, and those 2 are the fast ones, thus leaving only their slow animation types as effective.

In a patched game, this problem still persists, but their animations are always effective against cavalry, so they are good cavalry killers but remain quite useless against any infantry.

[Swordsman]

Faction Heir: Thanks for clarifying that. This has been driving me a little nuts. I have been playing several mods for Retrofit, and have become confused which, if any, really "fix" this bug. Actually, I thought it HAD been truly fixed in one of the patches.

I LOVE the CONCEPT of the "Real Combat" mod, and got 1.31 to work with Retrofit, but of course it doesn't have the recruit priorities line in it so it will be a real labor to go through and cut & paste them a gazillion times. Plus all the little personal changes I've modded in. But since it seems to be the only mod out there that truly addresses the animation fix per se for Retrofit, guess I'll just have to bite the bullet. What is your impression of Real Combat mod? Do you find the balance reasonable?

[Swordsman]

Faction Heir: Thanks for clarifying that. This has been driving me a little nuts. I have been playing several mods for Retrofit, and have become confused which, if any, really "fix" this bug. Actually, I thought it HAD been truly fixed in one of the patches.

I LOVE the CONCEPT of the "Real Combat" mod, and got 1.31 to work with Retrofit, but of course it doesn't have the recruit priorities line in it so it will be a real labor to go through and cut & paste them a gazillion times. Plus all the little personal changes I've modded in. But since it seems to be the only mod out there that truly addresses the animation fix per se for Retrofit, guess I'll just have to bite the bullet. What is your impression of Real Combat mod? Do you find the balance reasonable?

[FactionHeir]

Not aware of that mod I'm afraid.

[Emperor[1G]]

I know about the Armored Swordsmen, but Im thinking of starting a Portugal or Spain campaign for more of a challenge, and noticed their best infantry are the two handed dismounts they have. I dont recall my Varangian's being all that bad in my previous Byz campagin, thats why I was asking.