Anonymous v. Scientology

[Divinus Arma]

[Navaros]

The Toronto office of Scientology deserves the protests.

They set up booths on the sidewalk outside their office with huge signs that say "Free Personality Test". Then for everyone who takes the test, the conclusion is of course: "Scientology is perfect for you".

[Ronin]

well...one never turns away a sucke....uhm....a potential faithful

no religion would turn people away and say they are not "right" for it.

[Banquo's Ghost]

no religion would turn people away and say they are not "right" for it.

Actually, several try very hard to turn people away if they are "not right" - if you think about it, this makes sense and ensures commitment. Even the Roman Catholic church has a pretty harsh initiation regime - depending on diocese - mainly to winnow out those who just want to get their kids into a good school.

[Ronin]

Actually, several try very hard to turn people away if they are "not right" - if you think about it, this makes sense and ensures commitment. Even the Roman Catholic church has a pretty harsh initiation regime - depending on diocese - mainly to winnow out those who just want to get their kids into a good school.

Well...I would agree that all religions will try to indoctrinate you.....and if that fails they will turn you away....because let´s face it...no one wants disturbance on the "flock".......if you mean it like that....I´ll agree that a religion might turn someone away if they fail to successfully indoctrinate them.

but no religion turns someone away before even trying to bring them into the fold.....that defeats the material (I won´t discuss spiritual purpose or if they even have one) purpose of a religion.

[Big_John]

but no religion turns someone away before even trying to bring them into the fold.....that defeats the material (I won´t discuss spiritual purpose or if they even have one) purpose of a religion.

ahura mazda disagrees.




or would have in the recent past, at least..

[Lemur]

When will the Church of Scientology understand the power of the Streisand Effect? When will they learn that you don't threaten the internets?

Wikinews has learned that the Church of Scientology warned the documents leaking site Wikileaks.org that they are in violation of United States copyright laws after they published several documents related to the Church. Wikileaks has no intention of complying, and states that in response, they intend to publish thousands of Scientology documents next week.

[pevergreen]

Well its true, Anon delivers.

Honestly, Co$ neesds to watch out. Anonymous will organise another thing, in the meantime other things have warrented the attention of Anonymous.

[Lemur]

So who wants to be an Operating Thetan? Levels I to VIII, free for the taking. Come on, Orgahs, step right up! This kind of knowledge would cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars on a normal day. Think of the savings! At these prices, you can't afford not to become an Operating Thetan!

[Big_John]

lol. wikileaks, i <3 u.

[LittleGrizzly]

So what idiot gave Co$ tax extempt status in america ? and does it have tax extempt status elsewhere ?

For once the UK is being sensible and it is classed as a cult over here...

[Ronin]

it is tax exempt over here...the Portuguese state treats all nut balls equally.

if I was in charger I´d do away with all tax exemptions of this kind....one day....one day....

*imagines future*
'I now proclaim myself supreme leader of the United States of Myselfia!!!'

[Marshal Murat]

WARNING FOR SENSITIVE EARS!!!
Jason Beghe on Scientology
WARNING FOR SENSITIVE EARS!!!

But he explains it pretty clearly.

[Lemur]

I fought the law and the law won.

A New Jersey teenager convicted of participating in a denial of service attack against the Church of Scientology has been jailed for a year.

Dmitriy Guzner, 19, from Verona, was also ordered to spend two years on probation following his release and pay $37,500 in compensation at a sentencing hearing on Wednesday, The New Jersey Star-Ledger reports. Guzner confessed last May to taking part in a January 2008 attack against Church of Scientology websites.

The teenager is one of only two people ever charged with taking part in attacks protesting against alleged online censorship by the Church of Scientology that left its main website inaccessible for around a day and continued for about two weeks.

A second man, Brian Thomas Mettenbrink, was indicted over the same denial of service attack last month.

The denial of service attacks against the Church, co-ordinated by the Anonymous group, were made as a protest against attempts by Scientologists to stop the online distribution of a controversial Tom Cruise video.

[Ronin]

I fought the law and the law won.

A New Jersey teenager convicted of participating in a denial of service attack against the Church of Scientology has been jailed for a year.

Dmitriy Guzner, 19, from Verona, was also ordered to spend two years on probation following his release and pay $37,500 in compensation at a sentencing hearing on Wednesday, The New Jersey Star-Ledger reports. Guzner confessed last May to taking part in a January 2008 attack against Church of Scientology websites.

The teenager is one of only two people ever charged with taking part in attacks protesting against alleged online censorship by the Church of Scientology that left its main website inaccessible for around a day and continued for about two weeks.

A second man, Brian Thomas Mettenbrink, was indicted over the same denial of service attack last month.

The denial of service attacks against the Church, co-ordinated by the Anonymous group, were made as a protest against attempts by Scientologists to stop the online distribution of a controversial Tom Cruise video.

cut off one limb and two more shall take it´s place.....
HAIL HYDRA!!

[Subotan]

A New Jersey teenager...

That's disgraceful. I would say that Scientology should be ashamed, but shame is a feeling reserved for decent people.

ahura mazda disagrees.

or would have in the recent past, at least..

Hehe, I just got a book about Zarathustra today from Amazon

[Aemilius Paulus]

online distribution of a controversial Tom Cruise video.

Really? Where? Linkie please? Where is that video they are referring to? (Sorry too lazy to spend time on Google - and I want to be sure I get the right one, and not some other related video)

[Subotan]

Really? Where? Linkie please? Where is that video they are referring to? (Sorry too lazy to spend time on Google - and I want to be sure I get the right one, and not some other related video)

I'm guessing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2_rZIgrQI

Btw, I have friend who has made some videos which conclusively prove that Scientology is bunk (As if you didn't know already)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiOxaXmBIFg

[Beskar]

I can imagine Lemur in a guyfalks mask now.

[drone]

I fought the law and the law won.

Well, the kid broke the law, he deserves punishment, even if the target is the Co$. The sentence seems a little harsh though, maybe the prosecutor or judge is on the Co$ take.

[Aemilius Paulus]

My opinion is that if one supports the attacks on Scientology, they should likewise support attacks on the Catholic Chruch. That said, practically any Christian denomination is likewise worthy of getting their rump handed to them. Scientology is a joke? So was Christianity, 2,000 years ago. Scientology sucks money outta its members? Ahem, Christianity, tithing, cough, cough. Unlike Christianity, Scientology has not (yet, possibly) killed thousands, even millions of people.

To bash Scientology and belong to just about any Christian denomination is the definition of hypocrisy.

[Beskar]

Religion shouldn't get special rights such as tax-free status.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Religion shouldn't get special rights such as tax-free status.

I agree. Sure, they perform humanitarian work, but they are also home to a whole stack of other more questionable activities. Not to mention their mission trips to other nations only make life harder for the many converts, as the new Christians in the developing countries may face persecution from the gov't or their own people.

For instance, I know one professor, who taught a philosophy of religion class, and who was balking at Christian missionaries in China. She said the missionaries would talk the Chinese to or leave Christian material in or near the homes of the local populace, and the next day, those natives may and are at times or more often taken away. For interrogation, or worse, for imprisonment.

[CrossLOPER]

ITT newfags.

What I want to know is how I was able to post this and not get modded...

[Ice]

Well, the kid broke the law, he deserves punishment, even if the target is the Co$. The sentence seems a little harsh though, maybe the prosecutor or judge is on the Co$ take.

Kid deserves a pardon.

[Major Robert Dump]

His sentence really isn't that harsh. If he throws down a little cash down the road, he can probably get in expunged.

Anyway, this thread has been very entertaining as I had never seen it before and knew of none of the incidents because I was off pretending to be a soldier upon the threads conception. Good stuff

[Askthepizzaguy]

In my opinion, Scientology is a ridiculous science fiction story, rapaciously marketed to the gullible and sold at an unconscionable price to the desperate, under the direction of an ever-growing amoral cult of greedy and powerful snakes which have successfully bought enough lawyers, judges, and politicians to bully anyone who speaks out against it's cruel money-making scheme loudly enough.

It's a horrible combination of exploitation, pseudo-religious hucksterism, Ponzi scheming, and worst of all, Tom Cruise.

*shudders*

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"Tom Cruise" should always be written in a font that looks like dripping vomit.

[Decker]

Found this story:

St. Petersburg Times "Scientology: The Truth Rundown
High-ranking defectors provide an unprecedented inside look at theChurch of Scientology and its leader, David Miscavige.

Scientology leader David Miscavige is the focus of this special report from the St. Petersburg Times. Former executives of the Church of Scientology, including two of the former top lieutenants to Miscavige, have come forward to describe a culture of intimidation and violence under David Miscavige. These former Scientology leaders served for years with Miscavige.

Scientology's Response

[aimlesswanderer]

Scientology is a highly suspect cult which has a suspicious obsession with charging its suckers followers substantial amounts of money to "better" themselves. In many ways it is just a more successful garden variety cult. Anyone who thinks that Tom Cruise is a sane or normal human being is perfect material for the cult...

I am glad that it has recently been dragged into the light here. Hopefully there will be a parliamentary enquiry and the police will get involved.

A senator has called for a police enquiry

[Lemur]

This just in: local reporter does real reporting. Awestruck masses worship at his altar of love at eleven. (Seriously, this is the best reporting on Anon v. Scien I've yet seen, and it's all from a local TV station in Palm Springs, FL.)