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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    Why would the Pope call for Crusades against my land, if the excommunication was lifted that same turn?

    Perhaps he decided to issue the call the turn prior, and my King dying occurred after the point that the message was going to be delivered regardless? I can't recall exactly which message occurred first in sequence, but they did occur on the same turn.
    That's it exactly. It's happened to me a few times where my ex-commed faction leader died in the same year the Pope called for Crusades against me.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    So...if the excomm is lifted and I have a new Heir should I simply disregard this message? Is it just basically an expired, outdated message? No Crusades against me? heh...
    Correct. The only way you could have a Crusade against you now is if another faction had launched one that same year. You're safe now that you're back in good Papal standing.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    Other quick questions:

    1) The obvious- Why did he escalate his sanctions against me? I'm getting very powerful, not going to do a writeup now. 11 provinces, around 10k give or take in profit a turn, the largest navy, virtually unable to be invaded, stable, and we already have a huge land army but are building an even larger one. It's huge. In my campaign questions thread we still hadn't even ascertained for certain why he excomm'd me in the first place (although we're almost sure a bribing of a castle garrison was regarded as a "hostile act" and this was the cause) still- Did he call for the Crusades, an escalation in sanctions, due to the fact that his excomm had no slowing effect on my power and I have only build larger armies on my borders?
    It's pretty much automatic for the Pope to call Crusades againsted ex-commed factions, although he usually waits a few years after the excommunication before doing so. As Ravencroft indicated, he's basically coded for this behavior: Ex-com a faction, wait a few years, then call for Crusades against said faction.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    2) In the usual case- Does a new Heir and lifting of excomm also lift all prior warnings as well? In other words- Is not only your excomm, but also any warnings given to you to not attack other factions for 10 years "sanctions" lifted as well?
    Right. A new faction leader cancels & resets excommunications and all Papal warnings.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    Let me also add to this that although France was also excomm'd along with me the year prior (we're not at war yet) I did not get any message stating anything about the Pope calling for Crusades against French lands. Interesting huh?
    I won't claim to be certain of this, but I *think* the Pope can only call for Crusades against one ex-commed faction at a time (somewhat similiar to how you can only receive 1 Papal warning per 10-year period). Now that you're a Catholic in good standing again, he'll probably call for Crusades against the French in the next couple years now.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    added w/ edit: Is it possible I misinterpreted the warning I got and it was telling me that the Pope had called for all Catholic factions to ATTACK me? Or is the only possible call that he issues along those lines for a Crusade? - That would answer my question about the excomm and call for Crusades being two separate acts...
    The Pope specifically calls for Crusades against ex-commed factions. That said, he'll cheerfully look the other way if someone launches a regular, non-Crusade attack against the ex-commed faction as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtistofWarfare
    Thought of one more thing ....then I'm off (sorry)- IIRC you cannot change your Heir correct? He is set? Of course I know you can kill him or throw him to the wolves in battle (always a laugh) but you cannot physically reassign the title of "Heir" from him to one of his brothers can you?
    macsen rufus is correct -- you're stuck with that heir unless/until you get rid of him.
    Last edited by Martok; 02-21-2008 at 18:35.
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