Am I going insane....

[vonhartzell]

Or does experience not effect missle damage in MTW2 as it did in RTW? I know this may have been brought up before but hours of scouring this forum i havent seen it.

I posted this in the bug thread but is it a bug or a feature?

Also why doesnt the alchemist guild upgrade ranged damage? It upgrades melee damage as if im going to send my muskets to hand to hand....or basilisk crews for that matter...

[Rhyfelwyr]

The value of experience has indeed been dulled down. It now longer affects missile damage, and now you only get +1 attack/defense for being on bronze chevrons, 2 for silver, 3 for gold; rather than +1 for each chevron.

However units still get +1 morale for each chevron.

I'm not sure on this, but I think experience may increase missile troops accuracy.

And yes, the Alchemists Guild upgrading thing is a bit strange and pointless.

[vonhartzell]

Ah I see so an army of Robin Hood class archers are just as effective but more CONFIDENT then Joe Smith the peasant with a bow.........niiiiiiiiiiiice....Oh and better gun powder devolpment peeeeshaaaaw who needs that mumbo jumbo!

[FactionHeir]

Basically what CR said.

In M2TW, experience boosts melee attack and defense by 1 point for every color chevron (1 for all bronze, 1 all silver, 1 all gold). Missile damage and accuracy are not affected.

Similarly, weapons upgrades for missile and gunpowder units including artillery only boost their melee attack, not their missile attack as it should.

[vonhartzell]

:*( So my wonderful dream of creating mass experienced muslim archers to rival pesky crossbow piles will never be a reality...can this be modded?

[FactionHeir]

Nope, not to my knowledge.

Weapon upgrades in M2TW always give +6 to melee attack regardless of weapon bonus type.

Similarly, accuracy is a set value for every particle type.

[glyphz]

:*( So my wonderful dream of creating mass experienced muslim archers to rival pesky crossbow piles will never be a reality...can this be modded?

Yes... I'm going through a similar feeling. Hoping this will be fixed in a patch, if not then there's no hope for experienced 1st/2nd tier missiles doing at least decent damage to the opponent's more expensive troops from afar. Gains in melee won't save peasant xbows/archers from light infantry/militia charges (no less cavalry) except fight a hopeless battle longer

[ataribaby]

In M2TW, experience boosts melee attack and defense by 1 point for every color chevron...

Is the defense boost hidden, i.e. not displayed on the unit description? In all my M2TW games only melee is boosted by experience as you describe - 1 point for each chevron colour.

I realise the stats are a rough guide as armour tests on this forum have shown (e.g. padded/leather armour is a must, giving a much higher boost in practice than +1). Swordsmens' Guild weapon upgrades only show on the stats as an additional point. I assume the +6 is a hidden stat too?

[FactionHeir]

Experienced do show the +1 to melee attack and defense. Note the +1 is to defense, not to armor or shield, and it may be easy to overlook that.

Swordsmith guild boosts attack by +6, but displays +1 only, so the real value is +5 of what you see.

[Shahed]

Basically what CR said.

In M2TW, experience boosts melee attack and defense by 1 point for every color chevron (1 for all bronze, 1 all silver, 1 all gold). Missile damage and accuracy are not affected.

Hi FH, are you 100% sure it doesn't affect missile accuracy ? We've probably been over this last year, but I've forgotten so if you could please post me the relevant code or just remind me how the conclusion was reached, would be much obliged.

[Old Geezer]

What do you mean "in Kingdoms you won't get extra experience", Monsieur Alphonse? My units get chevrons and I thought they were getting benefits from it.

[Eikon the Magistrate]

I cant say if experience ---> missle. But experienced gunpowder troops seem to be more accurate (besides the moral boost) I think it may also affect shooting/reload speed.

/Agree about the alchemists lab.