Boycott Games for Windows - Live

**Crian** · 03-03-2008, 16:54

I think this deserves some attention...

http://boycott-live.com/

EXCERPT:

Boycott Live? Why?

We have decided to start a boycott campaign against Microsoft’s Games for Windows – Live service because it’s violating our rights as PC gamers. Microsoft is pushing hard to make online PC gaming exactly like the Xbox’s. They want us to pay additional costs to subscribe to their Live service, and pay more monthly fees for a gold account, or to use the barely/non-working Silver account. Even if a gamer surrenders his soul for the attached fees to Microsoft; he may not even be able to purchase a subscription because the Live service is only available in 26 countries out of the 257 countries. This means that gamers from 231 countries are currently unable to purchase gold subscriptions even if they want to.

These two main issues put the future of online PC gaming at serious risk. This is what convinced us someone needed to start a boycott campaign against the Games for Windows – Live service. This became imminent to preserve online gaming and gamers rights. Of course Microsoft is a multi-millionaire corporation and they probably won’t care about this boycott, but game developers and publishers are more vulnerable to boycotts, and therefore we will target them instead. Sega, Eidos and THQ already signed to bring more Games for Windows – Live titles. The clock is ticking, now it’s the time to stop it. Say NO to LIVE.

**Fragony** · 03-03-2008, 19:41

If only pc gaming would be as slick and carefree as xbox-live but since it is windows it is going to be paying to test their beta's. The heart of pc-gaming is in the modding and nothing is going to change that, gaming industry has found a market in the casual gamer and the casual gamer just wants to play the game and doesn't mind paying for a carefree hour of fun, and the hardcore gamer knows what to do and dooesn't need it. It's a good thing for the more serious gamers because some of these newbies are bound to get interested in the less-casual stuff, making it more convenient to experiment for developers. What did we see on pc besides STALKER these years.

**FactionHeir** · 03-03-2008, 21:09

Originally Posted by Crian

Even if a gamer surrenders his soul for the attached fees to Microsoft; he may not even be able to purchase a subscription because the Live service is only available in 26 countries out of the 257 countries. This means that gamers from 231 countries are currently unable to purchase gold subscriptions even if they want to.

Yes of course. Except that of those 257 countries, quite a few don't even have internet to begin with and an even larger number only has sporadic access in the country. Way to go blowing this out of proportion. Oh, and there are actually only 193 officially recognized countries too.

**ArtistofWarfare** · 03-04-2008, 01:41

I wouldn't be too concerned about any of this...

Pay to play is just a part of the future of gaming. It doesn't threaten or jeopardize PC gaming or Console gaming. It's something that just affects gaming across the board.

The same reasons for someone choosing either format will still exist. There won't be some mass jumping of ship from PC gamers to go play Xbox Live, because most of these same people are not concerned about $15 a month.

They very well may have a gripe with pay to play, but they won't find any solution by moving to consoles simply to ...pay to play anyway.

So- Sure...I'll boycott MS's pay to play model moving into the PC world. For the reason of simply, paying less longterm. But I'm not boycotting it because it would "seriously threaten the existance of PC gaming". I don't see how it would.

I hate to bring it up in another thread but look at World of Warcraft. 12 million gamers and counting over there, all paying monthly to play, who would be totally unaffected by this. Plus...they already pay..that's the point.

When it comes to games like FPS- We're back to the original point. The people who chose PC over console, almost entirely did not do so simply to avoid the extra $15 a month for Xbox Live. They had other reasons...and those had nothing to do with this.

I just wouldn't worry about it...

There's so much more to this as well...but that's enough. You're just making an "Inconvenient Truth" out of this. Ironically, this is about as much of a cause for alarm.

**Mikeus Caesar** · 03-04-2008, 05:46

Paranoid, much?

zomg lol did u heer M$ is gonna charg for vidya gaems on teh PC?

Honestly, they should get their tinfoil hats and go sit in the foil coated corner with the rest of the loonies.