Toughest Kingdoms Factions to Play As

[PBI]

Yep, I think it means "warrior".

As for tough Kingdoms campaigns, I haven't found any yet. In my view the Kingdoms campaign are refreshing and fun change from vanilla but they aren't really any harder. The nearest thing I found to a hard campaign was the Apache, but even then it was mostly just a challenge to see it through to the end with all the marching endless stacks around with no roads.

You want a challenge, the best place to find it is mods.

[Rhyfelwyr]

The nearest thing I found to a hard campaign was the Apache, but even then it was mostly just a challenge to see it through to the end with all the marching endless stacks around with no roads.

You want a challenge, the best place to find it is mods.

Maybe its just different playing styles, but I found them really easy. I was able to keep a strong army for the same upkeep as two units of knights in any other campaign. The most expensive unit to maintain was Mounted Thunder Braves, which cost only 50 Florins per turn. Thats barely more than half of what a unit of peasants costs!

The only opposition early on was small Rebel settlements, and when the French came I just went on the warpath (brilliant feature), and overwhelmed them. Even though I say overwhelmed them, I beat them comfortably with a couple of armies. Strangely I struggled more against the Tarascans and their Cuahchiqueh and Jaguar Warrior armies.

Still it was a brilliant campaign, so unique and fun. Thank you CA for a wonderful expansion pack.

[G^2]

As CountMRVHS stated, the Tuetonic Campaign as the Order was a real challenge. Having every faction but the HRE agianst you from an early date and a poor starting economy with very expensive units made for a nail biter for the frist 50 turns or so. Try playing it agian but go slower, it won't disapoint you. Also, as already mentioned, try playing Norway in the Bretania campaign. The raiding is refreshing, and as long as you don't simply take Ireland and try to establish a base on the main land, it makes for a great challenge. Norway is defentily one of my favorite factions.

CR if you really want a challege take PBI's advice and try a mod. In vanilla you know your going to win no matter what, which is why it gets boring after the first fifty turns or so. Try a campaign with SS or BC. I play SS now and the new campaign map, harder AI, along with more difficult economy makes for a great game that doesn't get old as you play. Also, diplomacy is fixed, allowing you to turtle and not worry about getting attacked for no reason. I havn't played BC but everyone seems to think its a great mod, give one a try.

P.S.
Interesting name, always thought it was Welsh.
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[Rhyfelwyr]

I probably will try a mod, but I'm a bit fussy and like the game to feel polished, so the only mod I've ever player is EB.

Rhyfelwyr is a Welsh word, but in EB's timeframe Scotland was populated by Brythonic peoples, so their language was very similar.

[G^2]

SS feels pretty polished. There are no crashes (exept in the main menue where you pick your faction). There are some little quirks, like when you fail a merchants guild mission, they are "impressed with you" instead of disappointed. Also, rebel pirate ships are white instead of grey. Other than the long AI turn, which EB had, everything seems to run smoothly with no lags or freezes. You might try BC which is similiar to EB in that it has the region recruitment system, I think the BC team might have put a little more effort into their mod than SS, which King Kong does most of the work on. I just like knights and armor too much to play BC, expessially since the SS 6.1 campaign map includes most of the BC map.

Interesting, is Galic the origional known language of Britian?