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    RTW vanilla
    Greek Cities or Parthia: for the former, great temple set, starting positions, and units. The latter, horse archers, horse archers, and horse archers.... 'nuff said. =D

    RTR
    Bactria: uphill battle for the East against the mighty Seleucids, a chance to reenact Alexander's conquests in reverse, plus their version of pezoi and agema look cool as hell.

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    Franks or the Eastern Empire: the former because of it's the first faction I completed a full campaign with, RTW or BI. The latter because of great all-round units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus View Post
    RTW vanilla
    Greek Cities or Parthia: for the former, great temple set, starting positions, and units. The latter, horse archers, horse archers, and horse archers.... 'nuff said. =D
    Both of them are my least favourite factions, the Greeks focuses solely on Infantry while Parthia relies on supreme cavalry. Both are extremly powerful but one-dimensioned. The Greeks being extremly unflexible compared with the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.J.Cicero View Post
    Both of them are my least favourite factions, the Greeks focuses solely on Infantry while Parthia relies on supreme cavalry. Both are extremly powerful but one-dimensioned. The Greeks being extremly unflexible compared with the others.
    I rarely use Cavalry unless it's a Missile Cavalry or I really need to support my Infantry. The Greek Cities allow me to use powerful infantry and Missile Cavalry at the same time.


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    STW: I've forgotten the name, the faction that controls most of hokkaido
    MTW: Spain, A that begining its a rush for the iberian penisulia vs many foes, as soon as you have the whole place, just let your wealth build up...
    MTW:VI: Ireland ZOMG ALMOST EVERY SOLDIER THROWS STUFF!!1!!1!11!
    RTW: Armenia, its a uphill struggle because have so little money, then its a uphill struggle because the selucids are so big, then its a uphill struggle because the the egyptians are even bigger and richer, then its a very smooth expansion the you bump into the romans!
    RTR: Bactria same reason
    RTWEGM: Iberia: When every soldier throws stuff you can kill so much.
    MTW2: Scotland, up hill struggle again. Denmark, You get rich, then you bash people, repeat until you control 50+ provinces
    MTW2SS: Lithuian, when get enough terrories, no one can stop your armies of hard ass nails soldiers, plus virtually anything they have, you have a better equiviliant? Militia Spearmen? Baltic Spearmen!
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    [QUOTE=Abokasee;1941351]STW: I've forgotten the name, the faction that controls most of hokkaido
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    I thought Hokkaido wasn't included in the STW map?

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    STW: Ueshigi (havent played a while, but they had nice rich provinces and cheaper archers)
    MTW: Denmark mostly (my home country)
    MTW:VI: Vikings all the way (see above)
    RTW: Seleucids - love that pike, catapract and elephant combo
    RTW:BI: Sassinids - nice map placement (and elephants again)
    MTW2: Denmark or England (for the longbows)

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    STW: I've forgotten the name, the faction that controls most of hokkaido
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    I thought Hokkaido wasn't included in the STW map?
    Ah ha, you are correct, Hokkaido looks alot different, In fact its the completely opposite side of the map

    Shimazu is the faction, shame I can't play it anymore... vistas a bitch.
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    STW: Imagawa or Mori, I liked the split starting locations and the tough spot of being the traditionalists in the mountains.

    MTW: Italy, Almohads, or France

    RTW: Carthage and Pontus, love their starting locations and unit selections.

    M2TW: Byzantines, Moors, French

    France always has it tough and the moors and byzantines have a rough start too. I like the initial struggle for becoming established and then the rise to dominance, if possible I like the one battle where it is all on the line.
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    STW:I played this game about three times,but liked the takeda mainly cuz of shingen and his genius
    MTW1:didnt play
    VI:again didnt play it
    RTW:Macedon.I love there colors plus there not as one dimenstianal as there greek cousins.Theyve got solid infantry with great calvary.After that its egypt for me.A cakewalk from beginning to end....
    MTW2:The french or spanish cuz of my ancestry.My third favorite would have to be Denmark for there great viking units
    MTWK:The teutonic knights.theyr units are awesome and there campain on vh/vh really teaches you about where you win in a campain.A close second would be the Kingdom of Jeruslam.

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    STW: Hojo. Not a particularly exciting faction, just the first TW campaign I ever played and the one that got me hooked on the series.
    MTW: Turks. Great mix of units and balance between early and late units.
    RTW: Seleucids. Virtually every unit type represented in their army, so as soon as I got bored fighting with one army setup, could switch to another to spice it up. Also, the tough start always improves a campaign; if the start is too easy, as with the Egyptians, I feel as though the hard part has been done already.
    RTW:BI: Sassanids. Good smashy cataphract fun.
    M2TW: Turks again. Once again the ability to switch from horse archer/light cavalry to heavy infantry/archer to late-period gunpowder keeps the campaign interesting.
    M2TW:K: Wales. A nice uphill start and a true heavy spearmen/archer faction, something not found in vanilla.
    M2TW:BC: Kingdom of Jerusalem. The Wales of the desert (without the longbows).

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    I don't have STW and MTW so I'm just going to continue from RTW onwards
    RTW: Parthians, horse archers ftw! and as a person who uses an extremely aggressive diplomacy strategy, I have 3 wars running at the same time; in my current campaign, I have one in the steppes against sarmatians, another in the homeland against armenians and another in the fertile crescent against egypt and seleucids.
    RTW:BI: Sassanids, because they're the only ones who do not have major horde problems
    RTW:EB: SPQR, I find their campaign is the most interesting, other than Hayasdan's reform government campaign
    M2TW: Byzantines; they somewhat resemble the seleucid's situation from RTW
    M2TW:K: Wales, "Has a number of units capable of fighting in multiple roles" (as quoted from the manual)
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    stw:will get back to you on this one [loads up game]


    mtw:byzantine.strat off with littie land or lots of low tech citys.and haveing 2 glowing empires at your front door.makeing for a nice campain.

    mtwvi: bearly play this one. so don;t have a favorite for mtwvi .yet.


    rtw:two many to pick.romans for there great units.greek citys for there strong spears and spartans.and many others.

    rtwbi:western roman empire.there roman. strong infantry.good spears units. they have one good horse unit that is as fast as a horse archer. and is vrey likely to beat them in a one vs one.eagles can be train any were .


    rtwalexfotr:gondor and the white hand aka isengard.gondor for haveing to battle the endless hordes of mordor and battleing the white king.the white hand:for haveing uruk-hai.geting to kill many good guy heros like aragron.geting to be evil and have strong units!destroying the forest to fuel my fires of war.


    m2tw:byzantine empire.has ever unit you would ever need.gets to take over the big money maker the middle east.geting to fight the hordes.can take rome with out most of the know world hateing you.geting to rebuild the roman empire.

    m2twk:byzantine. greek fire. being rich and at last can get pay back on them truks for all they did to you in m2tw.
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    MTW: Byzantines: great units that gradually got less great, tough enemies and a precarious position.

    VI: I played this a lot more than the big map of MTW, and all factions are fun. In the end, though, I have to go with the Northumbrians. Any faction that makes you really appreciate a little unit like Woodsmen has something going for it!

    Dark Age (my mod for VI): Either the Romano-British or Rheged. The Romano-British have great land and potential for wealth, and some great units, but they're constantly having to shuttle armies across the countryside to put out fires. Rheged is fun because of their simple unit roster and brutally difficult starting position.

    RTW: Almost impossible to pick here, but I'm having a lot of fun with Spain at the moment. Very interesting starting position with potential for lots of ambushes and fun defensive warfare.... although I do miss the "typical barbarian" unit roster, where you'd just make a big long line of infantry, group 'em, Warcry, and charge.

    BI: Can I have 3 favorites? The Western Roman Empire for its crazy start position, great units, and perfect "end of the empire" feel. The Saxons for their great infantry lineup. The Romano-British (I once modded it so you could play as the RBs with Eburacum as your only starting province) because you can do like Macsen Wledig, declare yourself Emperor with the British legions, and invade Gaul!

    Fourth Age: Total War: As the good guys, Rohan. Make a long line of Riddermark Spears and Riders of the Mark, group them, and charge the enemy... riding down Easterlings and Orcs is just awesome. As the bad guys, Harad or Rhun. Rhun has some nice barbarian units, great horse archers, and *WAINS*!!! Harad has, of course, Mumakil. Plus, Harad has access to some fun buildings, a good navy, good agents, some decent cav, and fairly good-looking if not always effective infantry.

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    STW/MI: Shimazu

    MTW: Turks, Egyptians, Almohads or Byzantines

    VI: Welsh or Picts

    RTW: Numidia, Gaul, Greeks or Brutii.

    BI: N/A

    M2TW: N/A
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    I suppose for me, it would have to be the Julii. Just because, and I expect I'm not alone in thinking this, but it feels like the proper Rome experience. It's the closest you get to being Julius Caesar, and unlike the other Roman factions, you won't be drowning in riches during your campaigns so the challenge is arguably higher.... although the barbarians you face are probably a weaker foe than the Egyptians and Eastern enemies that the Scipii face, and the phalanx armies the Brutii are up against. I just enjoy fighting in forests with my legionaries, rather than featureless desert plains. The Roman unit roster and buildings seems more complete than the other factions too. I do enjoy playing as the Seleucids with their mighty war elephants, but their campaign like most others gets stale fast, whereas the Roman campaign has the benefit of a civil war to keep things interesting for longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zasz1234 View Post
    RTW: Carthage and Pontus, love their starting locations and unit selections.
    I love Pontus too. I like how unlike geece or macedonia, they have Pikemen and Regular hand to hand infantry with normal swords and spears. They also have supreme horse archers, Chariots (which not many factions have) and start off near modern istanbul which is very strategic as its at the Agean-Black sea meeting canal.
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    I love eastern factions much more than that barbarian west. What are your favourite Eastern factions. I love pontus for its wide variety of troops and position on the campaign map.
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    STW: Shimazu, because I loved No-Dachi Samurai and Teppo Ashigaru.
    RTW: Greek cities, because I love to turtle in lovely seaside towns. I build no roads when playing Greek, but establish harbours and a small, but capable navy asap.
    BI: Alemanni, because I love to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentation of their women!
    The Alemanni troop combination is simply devastating to enemy troop morale.

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    Armenia are a fairly good faction. Although they lack a wide variety of infantry units, the heavy spearmen are essentially all that is needed to be the force's backbone. Their phalanx capacity allows them to fight well hand to hand against the similar units which reside around this region.

    Another thing I generally like about them, is the existence of one key unit - the cataphract archer. Although they are not brilliant at everything, speed being one of their weakness', their strength in terms of armour and attack makes them a perfect unit for combat. Unlike horse archers, they can fight exceptionally well both hand to hand and from a distance.

    Another thing about Armenia is the sheer enjoyablity and satisfaction you can get as a player from a campaign with them. You start out as a fairly low income backwater in the middle of nowhere eventually developing into a regional superpower as the Selucid Empire is taken over. This then develops into a challenging war with Egypt and the Greeks over who rules the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Mithdrates View Post
    I love eastern factions much more than that barbarian west. What are your favourite Eastern factions. I love pontus for its wide variety of troops and position on the campaign map.
    Seconded. Their troops are of excellent standards, not as good as the Seleucids but you don’t get attacked by everybody you bolder right at the start of the campaign.

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    i like greece because of its hoplites and spartans and its expansion options. you can expand into sicily then into carthage or italy or both. you can also expand into asia minor and take back alexanders lands and can expand into thrace and into barbarian lands. i also like greece because its an uphill battles right from the start. i greatly enjoy sending huge stacks of bruttii's elite men of principes and so forth to the bottom of the ocean with my fleet when they try to cross into greece.

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    I love both the Greek Cities and Parthia, but Greek Cities got my vote because of their awesome temple set and starting location.

    Armoured hoplites and Persian cavalry are two of my favourite units in the game. <3
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    Scythia!
    Pleasure of chewing great infatry armies :)

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    The Seleucids, though Pontus comes as a close second.

    They´re really the most versatile army in the game once you´re reached the top notch of the unit roster.

    And I like Pontus due to their early Bodyguards.

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    [QUOTE=salemty;1970541]asia minor and take back alexanders lands and can expand into thrace and into barbarian lands.QUOTE]

    You have to be careful with hoplites and invading asia minor.Selucia and the Great PONTUS! have pikemen that can easily beat hoplites. I was pontus, (and i'm sure i've mentioned this in another thread) but i had 4 pikemen and 2 chariots against 8 armoured hoplites, two calvary units and 6 petlasts. Using the square formation i won the battle only losing 12 men out of 260, while they lost 544 men out of 1100. (about)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    And I like Pontus due to their early Bodyguards.
    that is the one unit of Pontus i dont like. Unlike other bodyguards who can just charge into battle, they have javelin first, totaly eliminating the chance of a surprise calvary chage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Mithdrates View Post
    that is the one unit of Pontus i dont like. Unlike other bodyguards who can just charge into battle, they have javelin first, totaly eliminating the chance of a surprise calvary chage.
    If you order them to use their secondary weapon, you can eliminate javelin throwing all together and go straight to hand to hand. Simply press the "Alt" key when ordering them to attack another unit, and they should go in with their swords. The same applies to all other units with a ranged weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites View Post
    If you order them to use their secondary weapon, you can eliminate javelin throwing all together and go straight to hand to hand. Simply press the "Alt" key when ordering them to attack another unit, and they should go in with their swords. The same applies to all other units with a ranged weapon.

    God damn it, how come i never find out these things. All that time complaing that greece had no hand to hand units when i could have just used my archers.

    ah, well. I supose thats why i joined the Guild anyway.

    Question. my friend wants to know if at the maurius event or what-ever-its-called, is that when generals turn into armoured generals, all over the campaign.\
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    Looks like good, old selucia is in the lead.
    No offence but i hate those traitors due to my pontus campaing. They gave me Halicarnassus for military access. I said yes. They positioned a huge army outside my favourite generals city. Then betrayed me and took the city. I dont think that the computer should only ask for military acess just to betray you a few years later, otherwise no one would accept deals with it in.

    In the end i slaughtered that army anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Mithdrates View Post
    Question. my friend wants to know if at the maurius event or what-ever-its-called, is that when generals turn into armoured generals, all over the campaign.\
    Yep, the "two" reforms (Marius and Armoured General Reform) are technically the same reform with exactly the same triggers. Due to the conditions for the Marius reforms, however, (this is one Imperial Palace anywhere in any Roman starting province (with the exception of Rome), the Gallic Itallian Settlements or Scilly) the system is fairly flawed. Due to the fact that Imperial Palaces are Roman only, the destruction of the Romans prevents all factions from getting their armoured bodyguards.

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