OOC Thread and Chatroom

[AussieGiant]

Guy's I think I've got some issues about the install.

I've followed TC's instructions and I've gotten up to extracting the LotR mod bit.

Shouldn't there be a desktop icon installed if do that correctly?

Yep, something is not right. I just downloaded the save and I can't see it. The only Icon on my desktop is the SS one.

[AussieGiant]

IGNORE ME!!

I'm an idiot. it's been made so simply it's even easier than KotR's.

[Privateerkev]

Yep, something is not right. I just downloaded the save and I can't see it. The only Icon on my desktop is the SS one.

I've never gotten the LotR icon to work. I just use the SS icon and it works fine. As long as you can recruit cheap RBG's in the savegame, you know it works.

[Ferret]

uhh PK the icon is just an icon, not an .exe. The idea is you right click on the SS shortcut go to properties and change the icon picture to that of LotR, clicking on the .ico file will just let you view the icon picture...

[Privateerkev]

uhh PC the icon is just an icon, not an .exe. The idea is you right click on the SS shortcut go to properties and change the icon picture to that of LotR, clicking on the .ico file will just let you view the icon picture...

Ah, I see. I was wondering why it didn't work. I am very computer illiterate. ^_^

(and it's PK...)

[_Tristan_]

To get the LotR icon working is quite simple :

Step 1 : select the SS icon and use the right-click to create a shortcut (either on desktop or whereever you deem it handy...)

Step 2 : Right-click on the shortcut thus created and select "Properties"

Step 3 : Select the "Change Icon" tab and browse to the folder where you extracted the LotR.zip which should include the LotR icon. Select it.

Step 4 : Now the LotR icon should let you start the game and it looks much cooler...

[Privateerkev]

Step 4 : Now the LotR icon should let you start the game and it looks much cooler...

But I like the Templar shield... :D

Thanks though.

[_Tristan_]

Then let's say it gets you in the mood... (will the blood and gold icon...)

[Privateerkev]

Then let's say it gets you in the mood... (will the blood and gold icon...)

What do blood and gold get you in the mood for?

[TinCow]

I've never gotten the LotR icon to work.

I couldn't figure out a way to make a LotR version of the actual shortcut. The only method I could think of was including a shortcut file in the LotR Mod zip, but that has to link to the .exe file. Since many people install in different locations and directories, there was no way for me to do this in a way that would work for everyone. I figured that the easiest method was just to include the icon itself, and let people change it manually.

[Privateerkev]

I couldn't figure out a way to make a LotR version of the actual shortcut. The only method I could think of was including a shortcut file in the LotR Mod zip, but that has to link to the .exe file. Since many people install in different locations and directories, there was no way for me to do this in a way that would work for everyone. I figured that the easiest method was just to include the icon itself, and let people change it manually.

In hindsight, that makes total sense. It just wasn't something I thought of. The other icon worked, and the mod worked, so I was happy. :D

[_Tristan_]

What do blood and gold get you in the mood for?

I don't know... Some rampaging, perhaps...

[Privateerkev]

The Order besieges Antioch. However, Senator Makedonios Ksanthopoulos has been afflicted with pnuemonia. (OOC: Welcome to Stainless Steel)

Alright, I'm new to this mod. Is this something that will just go away if the avatar sits in a city for awhile?

[TinCow]

Alright, I'm new to this mod. Is this something that will just go away if the avatar sits in a city for awhile?

Yes, thought it can sometimes take a while. The longer your army is out in the field, the more likely you will become ill, which decreases your HPs and makes you more likely to die in battle. In addition, long periods outside of friendly borders will start to decrease your army's morale. Very long durations will incur massive morale penalties on the order of -10. Deep raids like the Teutonic Crusade will no longer be possible, or at least they will be vastly harder. If you are campaigning far away from friendly territory, you'll probably have to seize a city and rest up in it for a while before continuing on. Sort of a base of operations situation. If you simply blitz through, your army morale will tank, your avatar health will deteriorate, and you will get slaughtered.

[Ferret]

yeah it will eventually...I hate the disease system, generals get them far too often.

edit:look up there ^^

[Privateerkev]

Alright, I'll just weave it into stories.

It seems historically accurate. People got sick all the time. Especially while sieging. Sleeping outside in a tent for 9 years can't be good for you.

[TinCow]

I like it because it won't kill the avatar, it just reduces his HPs and sometimes a few other traits. In LotR, people who use their avatar as just another cavalry unit will find themselves respawning regularly. Unless you have a lot of +HP traits, use of the avatar's bodyguard is very risky and probably should be restricted to emergencies. This is another reason I didn't care about having limits on the number of avatars in a stack. The more avatars in a stack, the more likely some are to be used as normal cavalry, which poses a significant risk of avatar death. You'd better be careful who you entrust your avatar to, lest you wind up dead after a minor skirmish that someone else fought.

[Cecil XIX]

Speaking of avatar mortality, does SS make any changes to the '61 years' rule? I've come across mods that can make avatars live to eighty or die at thirty, but I can't remember if it was a part of BBB or not.

[Privateerkev]

I like it because it won't kill the avatar, it just reduces his HPs and sometimes a few other traits. In LotR, people who use their avatar as just another cavalry unit will find themselves respawning regularly. Unless you have a lot of +HP traits, use of the avatar's bodyguard is very risky and probably should be restricted to emergencies. This is another reason I didn't care about having limits on the number of avatars in a stack. The more avatars in a stack, the more likely some are to be used as normal cavalry, which poses a significant risk of avatar death. You'd better be careful who you entrust your avatar to, lest you wind up dead after a minor skirmish that someone else fought.

*Suddenly remembers he is leading a stack with no less than 7 avatars*

[Cecil XIX]

*Suddenly remembers he is leading a stack with no less than 7 avatars*

And the only avatars to suffer HP penalties are the Order' first and second in commnd.

I also find it ironic that because of the pnuemonia Makedonios now has the lowest piety out of all the members of the Order.

[Privateerkev]

And the only avatars to suffer HP penalties are the Order' first and second in commnd.

I also find it ironic that because of the pnuemonia Makedonios now has the lowest piety out of all the members of the Order.

Armatos is sick too?

What are the stats of pnuemonia in the game? I'm at work and don't have access to the save.

[Cecil XIX]

-1 Command, -1 Authority, -20% movement points, -2 hitpoints, -1 piety.

Armatos just has a general 'unhealthy' trait that gives -1 hitpoints which I ascribed to figure from the voyage to Antioch.

[Ramses II CP]

...and this is exactly why I intensely dislike the SS supply/trait system, you're always better off using captain led armies. Players do not need the advantages of a general to defeat the AI, and in fact probably the only thing which will lead to the AI defeating you are some of the huge negatives sometimes associated with a general in SS. I guess it makes for some RP chances in LotR though, since we really can't play without our generals.

Want to reconsider that assault now PK?

[Privateerkev]

-1 Command, -1 Authority, -20% movement points, -2 hitpoints, -1 piety.

Armatos just has a general 'unhealthy' trait that gives -1 hitpoints which I ascribed to figure from the voyage to Antioch.

Thanks.

*edit*

Want to reconsider that assault now PK?

Nah, this doesn't change anything yet. I'll just have Makedonios rest afterwards.

[_Tristan_]

I'll just have Makedonios rest afterwards.

Like in Rest In Pieces...

[Privateerkev]

Like in Rest In Pieces...

from what? governing a city?

[_Tristan_]

Sorry for the double post but I meant to say that pics have been posted for the Durazzo raid... Text should follow shortly...

[_Tristan_]

from what? governing a city?

No from conquering it...

Makedonios : Ass... *cough*cough*...ault !!!

Order Soldier: Did he say what I think I heard ?

Other Soldier : Yes, I think you heard him right... Now I understand why they say he's losing piety...

Order Soldier (to Makedonios) : You talkin' to me ? You F... talkin' to me ? Euh Sir ?

[Privateerkev]

No from conquering it...

Nah, they are just going to sit there and make some tea. Let the garrison come to us.

[Smowz]

Congratulations Tristan on the first battle report.

Commiserations on the one lost soldier, by the looks of things he will not be easy to replace as the farmers of Durazzo seem to have little fighting skills to think of.