OOC Thread and Chatroom

[Privateerkev]

I'm not saying anything... holding my tongue. I'm being good. I'm being good.

It would probably be good to mention that Ig is a minor. So is EF. Playing innuendo games with them might get you into some trouble. Just a word of warning.

[pevergreen]

So am I For 8 months more.

[deguerra]

Hey guys, just as a quick heads up, Zim's computer managed to contract some sort of virus from the .org (he thinks) and is having to be reformatted. After some initial difficulties, we think we've got it working now, but it will still be a day or so until he gets Medieval working again.

So just for now, I'll be in charge of Asteri matters and whatnot, so just direct anything for him to me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

runs away and hides... never to open his mouth again!

[Privateerkev]

Hey guys, just as a quick heads up, Zim's computer managed to contract some sort of virus from the .org (he thinks) and is having to be reformatted. After some initial difficulties, we think we've got it working now, but it will still be a day or so until he gets Medieval working again.

The .org has been working weird for me too. There was some sort of ad that would pop up whenever I went to the homepage. I'll need to do some virus hunting.

M2TW still works for me, but the computer is running slower.

[ULC]

Strangely, I'm having the same problem here. I used to be able to run M2TW with medium graphics with 4000+ in siege battles but now it can barely handle siege battles without a drop in fps (field battles are okay though ...to an extent). Any suggestions?

[_Tristan_]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/KOTR-1086-8.zip

Seems like someone was feeling nostalgic...

[Smowz]

Could not resist printing the 4th installment of Nevoulas back story before OK got round to rolling over to the next term.

Heh also could not resist the shameless plug here in the OOC thread. Thanks for your previous kind words about my stories, I hope to keep all my avatars interesting throughout the epic saga.

[flyd]

Seems like someone was feeling nostalgic...

Hah! Force of habit actually.

[Cecil XIX]

Hmm. I've been playing Europa Barbarorum recently and haven't noticed any problems there or with the Org. 'Course, I don't leave the Throne Room much. I wonder what's going on?

[AussieGiant]

I was also having some problems. I actually think the site gets hacked periodically. Not drastically but every now and then it seems you try and access the site and you get taken to a game's site or in this case some other web site related to the org.

[Privateerkev]

*watches tumbleweeds blow past*

I hereby propose we push for an OOC CA that mandates certain requirements of any player who wishes to run for Megas.

a.) They must live in their parent's basement for the length of their term.

b.) They must have a cable modem.

c.) Basement must have a mini-fridge stocked with beer and a freezer stocked with microwavable meals. A microwave must be present to heat previously mentioned meals.

d.) A cot can be set up near the desk but it is preferable if the player can stay up 24/7 so he can more readily answer those last minute panicky IC and OOC pm's.

e.) A "trucker buddy" should be installed under the desk for biological necessities.

f.) There should be absolutely no attempts to "have a life" for the entire duration of the Megas's term. Your life actually belongs to the other players and your entire being should be dedicated to serving their every IC desire.

<--- added in hope that the current, as well as every future player of the Megas knows I am just kidding.

[Ferret]

Actually I think you got the last bit just a tad wrong. The represents what the Megas must wear for their entire term. Other than that it sounds just like I expected, in fact I'm surprised you are having to post this, I thought it was general knowledge by now.

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[Smowz]

Whilst there is a temporary lull, I just thought i would ask a few noob questions to the masses.

1) Regarding the Megas... is the megas nominated and seconded much like an edict in the Magneura or is it done separately?

2) What happens when a megas does not follow an edict?

3) Am I right in thinking that if a vassal dies its lands would go straight to the overlord?

4) Can a landowner simply transfer ownership of a province to whatever avatar he/she likes?

[Ferret]

1) No, everyone who wants to run present their case and then there is a seperate poll to see who wins.

2)People will lose respect for them and if somone can call an emergency session they could get impeached (removed from office)

3)Yeah I think so

4)I suppose so

[TinCow]

1) Regarding the Megas... is the megas nominated and seconded much like an edict in the Magneura or is it done separately?

2) What happens when a megas does not follow an edict?

3) Am I right in thinking that if a vassal dies its lands would go straight to the overlord?

4) Can a landowner simply transfer ownership of a province to whatever avatar he/she likes?

1) Nope. Anyone can run for Megas just by declaring that they are a candidate. This is traditionally followed by a 'manifesto' which is essentially the campaign platform you are running on. Also, in the LotR rules, Stators cannot run for Megas.

2) People get annoyed. Anything beyond that requires people to take IC actions, with impeachment being the most effective methods. Of course, you have to be able to call an emergency session to impeach someone, and at the moment that's limited to the Basileus, so OverKnight is pretty much immune. This is an isolated situation, though. In the future, the Basileus will be available to start impeachment proceedings against other players, and eventually other ranks will have the ability to do so as well.

3) Yes, but only if he either doesn't have a will or gives it to the Lord in the will. If he has a will and directs that the province goes to someone else, then the Lord does not get it.

4) Yes.

[Privateerkev]

Whilst there is a temporary lull, I just thought i would ask a few noob questions to the masses.

1) Regarding the Megas... is the megas nominated and seconded much like an edict in the Magneura or is it done separately?

Like EF said, it is just a majority vote. You run, if you get the majority, you win.

2) What happens when a megas does not follow an edict?

While the rules have to be followed, edicts do not. It is up to the players to provide IC consequences for the Megas who violates edicts.

3) Am I right in thinking that if a vassal dies its lands would go straight to the overlord?

If there is no will, the land goes to the vassal's lord. If there is no will and no lord, the land goes to the Emperor.

4) Can a landowner simply transfer ownership of a province to whatever avatar he/she likes?

Absolutely. You can give your province to who ever you want at any time.

*edit*

nm, TC answered all of this while I was typing.

[_Tristan_]

1/ As EF said, it is just a majority vote on declared candidates...

2/ Only IC consequences and possible impeachment...

3/ Unless bequeathed to another avatar in a will.

4/ In life, yes. There is nothing forbidding giving a settlement to another avatar (thus allowing for advancement and then promoting adavancement of your own rank if the avatar receiving the province is one of your vassals)

in death, only within the limits imposed on wills.

[Zim]

Hey guys, everything is (mostly) working right now, although I have a lot of things to reinstall on my computer. Coupled with RL things this means I may be a bit scarce for a day or so. I should be able to answer IC pms but in the meantime I'll delegate deguerra's character in the SOT thread for in game movement of ships under Asteri control, etc.

Hope to be back full time within a day or so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

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*watches tumbleweeds blow past*

I hereby propose we push for an OOC CA that mandates certain requirements of any player who wishes to run for Megas.

a.) They must live in their parent's basement for the length of their term.

b.) They must have a cable modem.

c.) Basement must have a mini-fridge stocked with beer and a freezer stocked with microwavable meals. A microwave must be present to heat previously mentioned meals.

d.) A cot can be set up near the desk but it is preferable if the player can stay up 24/7 so he can more readily answer those last minute panicky IC and OOC pm's.

e.) A "trucker buddy" should be installed under the desk for biological necessities.

f.) There should be absolutely no attempts to "have a life" for the entire duration of the Megas's term. Your life actually belongs to the other players and your entire being should be dedicated to serving their every IC desire.

<--- added in hope that the current, as well as every future player of the Megas knows I am just kidding.

A) Got that covered.
B) Got that covered
C) Got a full fridge, freezer, microwave, and toaster oven
D) I have a full bed which, with a laptop, is my desk and my permanent residence
E) That's none of your business but I have that covered and thensome
F) Life is a tasty cereal to me, and nothing more.


According to your list, I should be declared the Megas immediately.

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Actually I think you got the last bit just a tad wrong. The represents what the Megas must wear for their entire term. Other than that it sounds just like I expected, in fact I'm surprised you are having to post this, I thought it was general knowledge by now.

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Need I point out that my character IS a clown?

All Hail Megas Efstratios Monomachos!

Now that I am the Megas, I am issuing a decree: Anna Comnenus must report to my chambers within the next thirty minutes.

[TheFlax]

I mock your edict, you can't even get her name right.

Its either: Anna Komnenos (as in the game), Anna Komnene or Anna Comnena

Comnenus would apply to her father or her brothers. Unless you think she is a man?

Next time, please to some research before passing an edict.

[flyd]

I think you're both wrong. Comnenus is just a Latinization of Greek Κομνηνος, whereas a litteral letter-for-letter transliteration would be Komennos or Komninos. This is the masculine form of the name, Comnenus being Latin and Komnenos being Greek written with Latin letters. The feminine form is Κομνηνη (Komnene/Komnini) in Greek and Comnena in Latin.

[Privateerkev]

Alright guys, I am noticing something weird with the save game.

Every time I load up the new save, I notice that the Antioch garrison has not reduced at all. But if I advance the turns myself, the garrison reduces as normal.

So, does anyone who has been taking the save game have a mod installed that stops besieged garrisons from reducing?

[TheFlax]

I think you're both wrong. Comnenus is just a Latinization of Greek Κομνηνος, whereas a litteral letter-for-letter transliteration would be Komennos or Komninos. This is the masculine form of the name, Comnenus being Latin and Komnenos being Greek written with Latin letters. The feminine form is Κομνηνη (Komnene/Komnini) in Greek and Comnena in Latin.

Quite possible, I simply used the three names I have seen in most of the studies I've read about her. Most of them use either Comnenus/Comnena or Komnene. I have yet to see Komninos anywhere, although it might be as you say a better literal translation. Personally, I tend to think they are all ok, but stick to Komnenos for simplicity. Anyways, Comnenus doesn't work for a woman, that was my point.

[deguerra]

well given that you say it works normally when you advance the turn, and the only person advancing turns if OK, does that mean it would have to be him?

not trying to assign blame, OK, just trying to figure it out.

[Privateerkev]

well given that you say it works normally when you advance the turn, and the only person advancing turns if OK, does that mean it would have to be him?

not trying to assign blame, OK, just trying to figure it out.

Darn you for using... logic!!!!



But more seriously, that is a good point. But the save game passes among a few of us. And I don't know if it has to be the person who advances the turn to change the save game in this way.

But my knowledge of mods is quite limited.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Maybe the spelling of Anna Comnenus in the masculine form implies that she's being portrayed by a man.

[TinCow]

Darn you for using... logic!!!!



But more seriously, that is a good point. But the save game passes among a few of us. And I don't know if it has to be the person who advances the turn to change the save game in this way.

But my knowledge of mods is quite limited.

AFAIK, there is nothing in the mods that would change the rate at which garrisons reduce. Definitely nothing in the LotR mod. Doesn't vanilla M2TW give at least a turn or two before garrisons start dropping, though? Wouldn't that explain the situation you're seeing?

[Privateerkev]

AFAIK, there is nothing in the mods that would change the rate at which garrisons reduce. Definitely nothing in the LotR mod. Doesn't vanilla M2TW give at least a turn or two before garrisons start dropping, though? Wouldn't that explain the situation you're seeing?

I started sieging on our 2nd turn. It should be reducing by now. The siege counter is certainly counting down.

Also, when I first advanced through the turns in the beginning of the game, I ended up facing a sally of 546 of the enemy. Now when I advance through the turns, off of the current save game, I end up facing a sally in the 590's. For some reason, the garrison in Antioch is not reducing when the save is passed along to other people. But if I advance the turns myself, it reduces like normal.

I am left totally puzzled.

[deguerra]

apparently LotR doesn't like the Order

But seriously, I have no idea what could be causing this. As TinCow said, I don't think any mods influence garrison reduction. I'm not even sure it's not hardcoded.