[Romani AAR] It began on seven hills...

[QuintusSertorius]

Damned double-post. Won't let me delete it, either...

...still takes it onto a new page away from the image-heavy previous one.

[||Lz3||]

I have found that alex.exe generals are less likely to commit suicide...

but still I'm not sure of the advantages of playing an historical campaign whit alex... since the enemy usually uses weird tactics which wont let me use standard formations and I think the fact that the AI can retrain makes it harder to the AI itself to expand...

[QuintusSertorius]

Winter campaigning season, 149BC

Africa

With the propraetor Curius Dentatus taking care of administering Atiqa and settling local disputes, his quaestor Aemilius Scaurus continued to enjoy command of the army of Africa. Ravaging the lands around the Qarthadastim captial, he came upon a column heading to bolster the forces in the capital. Surprisingly, despite Roman numbers they chose to fight.



The battle opened with a race for the high ground, one Scaurus wasn't prepared for. The Qarthadastim commander won the opening move, dominating the heights.



But the Qarthadastim artillery was too slow to match the pace of the foot and cavalry, and was mercilessly raked by slingshot.



The Romans were forced to march uphill to meet the enemy, through a hail of missile fire.



Battle was joined.



Appolonia pitched into the fray.



He disengaged, and was then pursued by the equites extraordinarii. Perhaps panicking, he continued to run.



When he turned to stand his ground, the fighting was brutal. Two sets of heavily armoured men on big horses hacking at each other with sword and spear.



Thinking their general had fled the field, his centre broke.



Even as Appolonia fought on, his army was now in full flight.



Seeing which way the battle had gone, he tried to get away, and was killed.



Scaurus had prevented the reinforcements arriving in Qart-Hadast, and bolstered his own reputation as a foe of the Qarthadastim.



Makedonia

In Makedonia Sergius' investment of Pella was threatened by the arrival of a Makedonian force from Tylis. He broke off the siege and offered battle; the combined Makedonian force was about even in size to his own.



Sergius waited for the Makedonians to make the first move.



As the relief force came on, the garrison from Pella could be seen in the distance.



Allied cavalry routed some elements.



Soon they'd driven most of the relief force away.



The commander of the garrison foolish hared after the allied cavalry, Rufinus took the opportunity to attack. He drove the garrison commander away, but couldn't catch him.



Sergius ordered the advance to meet Pella's garrison, which was composed primarily of pike phalanxes.



Having seen their commander flee, some of the levy phalangites caved in under little pressure.



An envelopment began from the right while the elite phalanxes engaged.



Charges to the rear of another group of levies had an impact.



The brittle confidence of the Makedonians shattered.



Only a few elites contined to fight.



But it was ultimately a futile gesture.



Pella was taken.

Africa

Scaurus' camp was attacked by two Qarthadastim raiding parties.



He hid a part of his force in the woods, and allowed them to come to him.



While there were a number of elite formations, they were simply insufficient to the task.

[QuintusSertorius]

A World at War, 148-147BC

Greece

Titus Sergius Silus, no relation to Decimus Sergius Esquilinus, left his tribune to manage things in Thermon while he advanced the campaign against the Greeks. He had numbers on his side.



The Greeks put themselves in a strong position on a hilltop, and it took some fancy maneuvering to get into position to fight.



Once his skirmishers had had enough, the line advanced.



Their captain was killed by a slinger as he loitered in front of his line.





Panic spread like wildfire.







It was all the Romans could do to keep up with the fleeing Greeks.



Africa

Pillaging the lands around Adrumeto, Scarus was attacked by two Qarthadastim armies.



He met them on an arid plain, and let them come to him. Though they had numbers, his men were confident.



They began to combine their forces before meeting the Romans.



However little order was evident in their battle plan.



Fighting spread across the whole Roman line.



Some of the first units routed.



Yutpan Emerita made the mistake of trying to ride down some principes.





Men began to waver at the death of their leader.



Then suddenly all resistance disappeared.



Scaurus had won, but at a hideous cost to his cavalry, who were all but decimated.



Later in the season his weary troops were attacked in their camp.



The attack was easily driven off.



Greece

Advancing to Demetrias, Silus was attacked by a smaller Greek force.



After a desultory exchange, most of the Greeks were routed.



Anatolia

Moving against the Antigonid allies on Lesbos, Manius Sempronius Chronos launched a surprise attack on the island.



The landing was difficult, but a foothold was gained and the Makedonian force reduced.



(I had to auto-calc because this one froze every time I tried to play it - land bridge reinforcement issues. And yes, I used auto_win because I'd gotten really annoyed at trying to play it three times with it freezing every time the battle started.)

Greece

Silus' road to Demetrias was beginning to seem like it was paved with skulls. Several Greek forces fell upon his route of march.



But he drove off all three armies and kept his own force intact.



(More reinforcement-related technical issues, even better here it CTD'd after I'd won, so once again auto-calc and auto_win)

Anatolia

Chronos concluded the siege of Mytilene.



He waited for the Antigonids to make their move.



The first group joined battle, hoping their reinforcements would arrive in time.



Some of the levies were the first to crack.



The arrival of the cavalry turned that into a general rout.



Chronos advanced to meet the second group.



They fought harder than the first had.



Their commander narrowly escaped death, then fled the field.



The cavalry returned from pursuit of the first army's routers.



In some confused fighting, a noble with the second army was killed by Chronos.



Fighting continued for a time, then the last of the enemy fell.



And the last of the Antigonid allies had been driven from Asia Minor.



Africa

Continuing to threaten Adrumeto, Scaurus was attacked again.



The feeble effort was foiled. (The AI was getting annoying at this point for wasting my time with these useless little armies, instead of combining it's forces properly)



Greece

The Greeks attempted to relieve Silus' investment of Demetrias.



The failed. (More post-battle CTDs...)



Africa

Scaurus was besieging Adrumeto when a band of Qarthadastim attempted to break through the blockade. That brought Adrumeto's garrison out to battle.



Scaurus waited for them beyond a grove of trees, anchoring his right on a rocky formation. He was still desparately short of cavalry.



The Qarthadastim came on.



And vainly hurled themselves against the Roman line.



Giscon fell.



And that decided the battle, Adrumeto was taken, and it's population sold into slavery.

[QuintusSertorius]

Spain

The war against the Lusitanian tribes and their allies continued to burn slowly. The Lusitanian Segobricoi had slipped past the army of Further Spain to attack Baikor. Bringing the army of Nearer Spain to it's relief, Appius Aurelius Cotta attacked.



The garrison of Baikor didn't arrive at the scheduled time, leaving Cotta to face the Iberians alone.



They came on quickly and soon everyone was fighting for their very lives.



Then inexplicably, the pressure eased. Some of the Lusotanii had spotted the arrival of a second army, but Cotta was unaware of this.



Some of those left in the fight began to waver.



They were caught between the two Roman forces.



And those who didn't escape were shown little mercy.



Greece

Having turned Tylis over to the Thracian tribes, Sergius Esquilinus, conqueror of Makedonia, turned his attention to Greece. He brought his army down to besiege Athens itself. The response from the Greek communities nearby was immediate, raising men to resist the invaders.



The battle itself took place on a wooded hill, and was difficult to follow.



But the result was never in doubt.



146BC:



I've been rather busy trying to close out the two major wars I'm now fighting, with Koinon Hellenon and Qarthadast. Makedonia are finished, they're now Krete as you can see at the bottom of the screen.

Korinthos and Chalkis will be taken next turn, leaving just thinly-defended Sparte before Greece is mine. Then I think I'll rest for a bit, making KH my protectorate. I'll leave mopping up until the 130sBC when I create Asia Province.

Offscreen I've besieged Qart-Hadast itself. The mercenary army that's been busy in the west is aboard ship and I'll use it to take Lepki and Garama. The latter I'll probably leave to rebel. I note the Saba couldn't keep hold of Sala. Useless. Numidia is a client kingdom which I'll pretty much leave alone. Might try to make it rebel when the client ruler there dies. Tempted to turn the whole of north Africa that I don't hold rebel. But then I wouldn't have a proper Numidian War, so may give it to Saba later then get to warring.

Pahlava are kicking seven shades out of Baktria. Pontos seem incapable of retaking Sinope, even though they have the men to do it.

Ptolemies recently took Judea off the Seleukids. Still a hot war over there, everything to play for.

I'm hoping the money from Africa, Greece and Makedonia will allow me to recruit some more permanent stacks. Need at least one for Makedonia and one for Africa. Maybe replace the one in Sicily and Illyria.

The placeholder is for about 100 screenshots and the better part of fifteen or so battles. Don't have the willpower to put them up before I sleep, too late. Some frustrating ones in there with the AI failing to combine stacks to make an actual fight of it, and some reinforcement and land-bridge related CTDs. As well as an annoying CTD after Heroic Victory with my mercenary army of African light troops.

[General Appo]

He, Krete looks a bot overpopulated.
Good going, hope to maybe see some screens from the fall of Carthage.

[QuintusSertorius]

He, Krete looks a bot overpopulated.
Good going, hope to maybe see some screens from the fall of Carthage.

Yeah, every time Pontos and the Hai get annoying, I have to put their armies in "time out" on Krete. I've moved most of Baktria's armies back home from that island off the Arabian peninsular now; they need everything they can get against a rampant Pahlava.

Fall of Carthage is coming!

[QuintusSertorius]

145BC:



Not happy at all right now, because I just had three big battles with screenshots, and I deleted them. Why? Because I seem to have picked up a persistent bug that causes a CTD on the beginning of my turn, but I thought it was on an AI turn so after the CTD I deleted the screenshots. Start the game up again, and the autosave is at the start of my turn, so the battles did happen. Only now I can't make a report on what happened.

There were two in Spain and the final defence of Kart-Hadast. Musing over whether I should destroy every building there now that I've taken it. Already exterminated the population, all 30-odd thousand of them. Just have to take Lepki and Garama, and the Qarthadastim are no more. KH are now my protectorate with their weird collection of provinces, but they're massing troops near Pergamon so I'm expecting an imminent attack.

Pontos have finally besieged Sinope, hopefully they'll take it back soon.

[QuintusSertorius]

144BC:



Things are much quieter now, just mopping up the last Qarthadastim settlement. Then I'll make Mauretania rebel so the Saba have only Gaetulia. I'll leave the rest of Africa rebel. All my military attentions will turn then to Spain.

I'm a little worried about the Getai's military build-up. They can't attack me directly any more, but they've got lots of big stacks parked on their borders with me. For some reason they won't attack either Aedui or Arverni, nor vice versa. Barbarian honour?

I've got my first agnomen, Caius Aemilius Scaurus is now Africanus courtesy of taking Carthago.



Got several candidates who could trigger the Marian reforms, so I haven't built the sixth latifunda in Italy. I want to wait until at least the 130s or 120s before allowing the possibility and losing my source of troops.

[||Lz3||]

The senate demands you to destroy everything in karth-hadast!

vengance!!

[QuintusSertorius]

Carthago Delenda Est

While Scaurs Africanus had destroyed their capital, some minor kingdoms allied to Qarthadast still continued the fight, even sheltering Qarthadastim nobles among them. All traces of those loyal to Rome's rival were eradicated in 143BC.



Meanwhile in the new balance of power in north Africa, many independent tribes had emerged, throwing off the Qarthadastim yoke and now trying to establish themselves. The Roman client kingdom of Numidia was attacked by one such tribe seeking to expand their sphere of influence.

King Massinissa marched to aid the Mauretanian general Karab.



Karab and his forces were all but done by the time Massinissa arrived. His men were at a serious disadvantage, having to climb a steep hill to get to grips with the Masylii.



They were too late to save Karab, who was slain by the Maesylian archers.





Having weathered their losses, the Numidians finally got to grips with the foe.



In the swirling melee, it was often difficult to tell how the battle was going.



Eventually Massinissa's own presence was the crucial factor, exhorting his men to stand in spite of casualties. The tide began to turn and his own cavalry crested the heights and denied the enemy that advantage. The king closed the battle by riding down the enemy commander.





And thus Massinissa had thwarted the ambitions of the Maesylii.




143BC:



After taking Garama, I let it rebel since I don't want it. I also helpfully caused Mashiliem to revolt, leaving the Sab'yn with little in Africa besides Gaetulia. Doubt Mauretania will revolt, they've got a massive stack there.

Getting attacked by the rebels was a result of a battle my allies, the Saba got me into. Fighting uphill with light skirmisher troops is almost impossible. They take heavy losses from enemy missiles and their own are ineffective. Plus no armour to resist the attack, nor the mass to push the enemy back. I nearly lost that one.

Had to deal with Kyrene/Epeiros suddenly deciding to expand into Egypt. For a time the Saba also threatened Alexandria. Seleukids are holding on, and even starting to expand which is not so good. Started slowing down the supply of money they get.

Baktria have fought back some, but Pahlava remain the other real superpower, besides myself.

Illyricum now has type II government, the first place outside Italy/Sicily/Sardinia/Corsica. Undecided when Spain should follow. Greece and Makedonia are all type III. Mytilene has no government type at all, since I shouldn't really have it yet.

Now I'm just playing down the minor wars to the Marian reforms. There's plenty of barbarian rebel stacks in the central European defense to borrow (largely because the rebels keep getting massive sums every turn, and build troops who no longer fit in their settlements). Got to take Celtiberia and Lusitania by 133BC. Also have to carve out Asia Province, finally reducing the Greeks to Rhodes alone.

Then it'll be all kinds of random little things, a war with the Arverni to create Transalpine Gaul in the 120s. Possibly some raids of their Thracian lands. A trip to bash the Getai wouldn't be amiss.

[QuintusSertorius]

Lusitanian War, 142BC

General Fabius Maximus, governor of Further Spain, marched out to the heart of Lusitanian territory to threaten their capital itself. The attack on Baikor had to be avenged, or Rome's allies would think about joining the Lusotanii in revolt. He caught a foraging party outside Oxtraca, bringing the whole tribe out to fight.



Easily disposing of the foragers, Fabius marched out to offer battle on a small rise.



Tetu Baelocoi led the combined cavalry to harass the Iberians on the Roman left.



They fell upon the Roman left.



Meanwhile their infantry and skirmishers came on.



Baelocoi pulled away from the fight to observe, while his cavalry charged home again.



The infantry closed to attack.



Meanwhile the Right ala and Second Legion began an enveloping maneuver.





Fierce fighting continued in the centre and on the left.



The Right ala worked it's way around the back of the Iberians.



Baelocoi charged into the fray once more, meeting resistance from the triarii.



The allied cavalry was now operating behind the Iberian line, routing their skirmishers.



Baelocoi fought his way clean through the Roman line.



But perhaps now cognizant of how the battle was going, he took off.



The triarii tried to stop him escaping, but he was too fast.



Close by, some of his men lost heart.





Fear spread throughout their ranks, and now they realised just how grievous their losses had been.



The few survivors tried to flee.



Baelocoi was one of the few to escape the rout.

[alatar]

Great stuff, shame it takes so long to load

[QuintusSertorius]

Lusitanian War, 141BC

In the summer of 141 governor Fabius fought two pitched battles with the Lusotanii and their kin. He'd heard reports of a large army marching down the coast to Oxtracam but hoped the activities of the army of Nearer Spain would stop them. The Lusotanii king marched out to aid those coming to his relief, and thus numbers were about even.



On an open plain, the armies met, the ground allowing cavalry freedom of movement.



Fabius' slingers whittled down the enemy light cavalry.



Then the braver Iberians tested their mettle by attacking the Roman lines.



Perhaps leading by example, Bilosban Segobricoi charged. In the background, king Baelocoi and his army arrived.



He fought hard.



But the extraordinarii gave no quarter and cut him down.





The commander of the main force dealt with, Fabius ordered his eager troops forward.



Baelocoi made for the Roman left.



His troops joined those already in the fight, and it became a desparate struggle for survival.



Some levies wavered.



Panic was infectious, even as some rallied, others fled.



The allied cavalry was able to charge to the rear of the line formations.



The king fought on regardless.



But his people had lost the will to fight.



He fled once again, evading all attempts to catch him.



The first part of Fabius' strategy had succeeded.



However the commander of the army of Nearer Spain failed to prevent reinforcements arriving, and Fabius was trapped between Oxtraca and this new force, which outnumbered his own by some margin.



He waited for them, urging his weary men on.



The first move came from the enemy light cavalry.



They were driven off by the infantry and allied cavalry working in concert.



With a screaming warcry, the Iberians charged en masse.



King Baelocoi arrived behind the Roman lines.



He harrassed Romans lights, and not even the triarii sent to stop him could pin him down for long.





The Spaniards fought on.



Finally overcome by many wounds, Baelocoi fell.



It came slowly at first, just a tremor.



Then a full-scale rout.



Vengeful Romans gave chase, killing all they could catch,



Oxtraca surrendered and Fabius looted it before withdrawing his battered army.

[QuintusSertorius]

141BC:



Had some really hard battles with the Lusotanii, they've put up a lot of fight. Makes me glad I didn't just steamroller them earlier, even though I could have done. It's a combination of all the AP weapons they have, along with so many units with very good morale. Some real touch and go fights where only by killing their general was I able to win. I was expecting a CTD after that second battle, seem to get a lot of them when I fight big battles on the AI turn (as that was).

I abandoned Oxtraca for now, I'll take it back again in a couple of years. The army of Nearer Spain is headed to Numantia which revolted thanks to my spy there. Which also neatly avoids a war with the Aedui who have been rather loyal allies. Going to long-siege it til 133BC. As in not take it, just repeatedly besiege then break off.

[QuintusSertorius]

139BC:



Pretty hot war going on in Egypt between the Ptolemies and Kyrene/Epeiros. Kyrene started it for reasons that are beyond me, trying to take Ammonion (actually they did, but I gave it back to the Ptolemies). Now I've been spawning units to replenish their armies, but just enough so they won't be overrun, but not enough to let them start trying to conquer Egypt again.

Does annoy me that the AI with rtw.exe is incapable of combining all those pointless little stacks into something resembling a proper army.

Pahlava finally took Charax. Saba ragained Garrhae. Khiva rebelled, no doubt the idiot Saka let the garrison go walkies, so now they and Pahlava are at war. Still anything pulling more of Parthia's attentions east instead of west is a good thing.

Saba also took Pselkis, but they're under siege. I've got Numantia and Oxtraca under siege. The latter has an almost full stack of gold-experience, gold-equipment freed slaves. They should be interesting. Courtesy of it rebelling.

[QuintusSertorius]

Lusitanian War, 139BC

Appius Fabius Maximus had been recalled to Rome, and it fell to new men to finish the war with the Lusotanii. Tiberius Claudius Pulcher and his legate Servius Sergius Catalina were those men. They had cornered the last resistance in Oxtraca when their lines were attacked. The Iberians outnumbered the Romans, but most of their force was composed of recently freed slaves hastily armed for the defense of the capital.



Tauro's band were summarily routed, and Zelicoi's mob arrived to find the Romans comfortably ensconced on a hilltop.



The skirmishers took a heavy toll on the unarmoured ex-slaves.



On they came, hurling rocks but staying out of close combat.



Zelicoi made his presence known, charging the front line in an attempt to inspire his men.



The legate Catalina led the Roman and allied cavalry in a charge to kill Zelicoi and his bodyguard.



The impact was shuddering, screams of horses filling the air as man and beast were slain.



They pulled out and prepared to charge again.



Zelicoi fought on, heedless of the losses to his bodyguard.



But one man could fight only so long unmolested, and he was pulled from his saddle.





Pulcher pressed the moral advantage, ordering the advance.



The enemy fell back, breaking into two groups. He was forced to split his army, sending the Iberian Left ala and First Legion in one direction, and the Second Legion and Latin Right ala in the other.



When they finally got to grips with the enemy, the fight didn't last long.



Many slaves were captured and put in chains once more.



137BC:



The Seleukids realm, still under threat and shrunk a little bit more of late. Oxtraca is now mine, and there's peace with the Lusotanii. Numantia is still under siege. About time I started thinking about Asia Minor. My client ruler in Pergamon died so I'm now building a type III as it's been "bequested" to me. Which means Sardis, Ipsos and Side should also follow. Which means a fight with the Greeks once more.

Been trying to cause some rebellions but not having much success even with assassins sabotaging things.

That last was an annoying battle, because the freed slaves kept running. In the end I just had my cavalry charge to pin them down, then my infantry had to run to engage them and stop them slipping away again.

[Swordmaster]

Are you aiding the Seleucids or do they manage to ward off the Parthians on their own?

[General Appo]

He´s been aiding the Seleukids, and quite a lot. Or at least he was, he´s begun cutting down on the financial aid a bit, after they looked too strong. I´m guessing he might start giving them cash now again since they´re under threat again.

[QuintusSertorius]

Are you aiding the Seleucids or do they manage to ward off the Parthians on their own?

He´s been aiding the Seleukids, and quite a lot. Or at least he was, he´s begun cutting down on the financial aid a bit, after they looked too strong. I´m guessing he might start giving them cash now again since they´re under threat again.

As General Appo says, the only reason they're still around is because I've been protecting them. Until recently they were getting 10-20k every turn and having their armies moved to convenient spots to defend their settlements. I also spawn extra units in any besieged settlement, and move threatening enemy stacks away. Now Pahlava are at war with both the Saka and Baktria, I'll port more of their stacks to that front and away from the Seleukids. Parthia have been getting hit with negative money most turns, too.

[Swordmaster]

He´s been aiding the Seleukids, and quite a lot. Or at least he was, he´s begun cutting down on the financial aid a bit, after they looked too strong. I´m guessing he might start giving them cash now again since they´re under threat again.

I'm talking about the last decades, actually.

[QuintusSertorius]

I'm talking about the last decades, actually.

There hasn't really been a time where I've not monitored and shepherded them. They did start expanding on their own in the last decade or so, Charax rebelled to them and they even besieged Seleukeia, so I stopped giving them money for a few turns. Now they're slowly losing ground to the Ptolemies again, and the Parthians are getting bolder, so back on the support.

[Swordmaster]

Alright, I was wondering whether they'd be more able if they could concentrate on defending Syria instead of an entire empire, hence why I asked. I've never seen them do that, since Syria is usually the first thing they lose, instead of the last. But I figure the Parthians are relentless in their onslaught, poor chaps.

Quite an enjoyable AAR, actually. I love your historical approach. To such an extent actually that I'm off playing another Romani campaign.

[QuintusSertorius]

Alright, I was wondering whether they'd be more able if they could concentrate on defending Syria instead of an entire empire, hence why I asked. I've never seen them do that, since Syria is usually the first thing they lose, instead of the last. But I figure the Parthians are relentless in their onslaught, poor chaps.

Quite an enjoyable AAR, actually. I love your historical approach. To such an extent actually that I'm off playing another Romani campaign.

Glad you're enjoying it!

I'm in a quandry as to how to deal with Asia Minor now. KH have three provinces which should have been bequeathed to me in 133BC. I could just take them off them, but they're currently my protectorate.

I'm thinking when the time comes, I might just FD them to me, and give them Karia (after taking it off the Seleukids) so they've got Rhodes and Hallikarnassos. The Ptolemies could do with losing it anyway, they keep producing half-stacks who just sit on the coast like they don't know where they're going.

[QuintusSertorius]

I call this place, Deathmatch Island:



They're all at war with someone, so I was hoping they wouldn't just loiter about, but would kill each other. No such luck so far, they just seem to sit there. Still they're out of the way in any case.

135BC:



No battles of late, but I have been having fun causing revolutions. As you can see, both Byzantion and Halikarnassos are now Rebel, and with big stacks in them too. I also caused Naissos to rebel, and now the Getai and Arverni are at war. However the Arverni don't seem to want to fight, even when I transport armies across to the region.

My next project is Augila, which I hope to make rebel. Got a spy and assassin at work already. Also working on Ipsos, the KH capital. Maybe before 133 rolls around I could have turned Asia Minor into a rebel fief.

[QuintusSertorius]

133BC:



This might be the last update if I can't get round the current problem, which is something naughty the Getai AI is doing. It was them before who nearly ended my game, and here they are once more.

If you have any ideas, by tech reports thread is here.

[QuintusSertorius]

Looking a lot like this is the end of my game. It's ironic that it's come at 133BC because that was very much a turning point for the Republic, with the actions of Tiberius Gracchus rousing the lower orders for the first time, and starting the chain of events that led to Marius, Sulla, proscriptions, Pompey, Caesar and the end of the Republic. In a lot of ways those were the very things I was looking forward to playing out, and I was so close.

But it's been fun, and I'll return to another Roman AAR like this when my other game, Epeiros-as-Pergamon is done. Hopefully the next game, with all the fixes in should be able to run right through to my intended end date, 31BC.

[Aaldaemon]

I can't believe this game is going to end. I could have bet my house on it you were going to finish this properly. I gather there truly is no work around to your problem?

I still hope you find a workaround, but if not I'll check out your Pergamon game, that sounds promising.

[General Appo]

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! *Refuses to believe it*

[QuintusSertorius]

Not looking like there is a solution. I've gone over 500 turns, which is a lot longer than most people play any single game, and I guess problems accumulate over that time. I also don't have all the fixes in, and have been swapping my script back and forth to get around the client ruler problems. I believe it's generals and client rulers that are the source of most of the problems, too, so they're linked. I make a lot of use of both, and I already had one brush with a near-fatal CTD with the Getai before.