Governement Types

[pevergreen]

As always, attack the position not the person.

Just keep it clean boys

[Colonel Flambard]

You can be sure of good behaviour from me peverpink.

[fenir]

Public Information Office.........................Send an E-mail (ask). As for a "Link", A link to what? to the internet? pppfffftttttt get a book.

" To Whom it may concern,

Sir/Ma'am.

I am contacting you inregards to the Succession laws of our monarch.
My concern, is laws regarding the rights of a princess accsending the throne, And, whether she is crowned as King or Queen.
It is my understanding, that technically she would rule, as King. And be crowned as King.

Can you please provide me with some further information regarding this topic. Both how it has come about, and any further informatin regarding the reasons for it.
Or direct me to where i can find out more about this subject.
Thank you inadvanced,


Yours Sincerely


Such"n"such"



That should do it. Or use your phone, and find a Lawyer. (Consititutional Law). they should know.


Or you can read about 4 years of laws. And 6 years of Developed Law. or Customary Law.
You will be able to obtain law books from a university library regarding succesion if you are really interested.


Salic Law is not contained in english common law in its entirity, certinaly not today. It's contained as parts and tradition. Same with Codex Civilis. We don't have it contained as one document exactly copied from Emperor. We have used it as the baisis, and carried it over.
But English Common law is both based, and uses, salic and codex civilis.

If, you want to learn about both of the above, you will need a few years, and to learn latin. Then you will have to study enlish customary law, and it's development.

I suppose, most of salic law and codex civilis are really precedents of standards in most respects.


And as for my spelling mistake. I really don't give a damn. I could take offense at your lack of education. The way you part your hair, or simply because you are stuck up. But I am above that at the moment.
but that doesn't change what i have posted, i have posted the truth, as fact.
You can lazyman it, and ask public infor .gov.
Or really study it.



Sincerely

fenir

[Martok]

Easy, guys. This thread has already gone off-topic, and is now in danger of devolving into a flame-fest as well. Even folks in the Backroom are expected to be civil towards one another, and the Empire forum is no exception.

This thread was intended to discuss government mechanics in ETW and how they might function, not argue over the finer points of laws governing succession. (Besides which, I think it's safe to say that whatever model CA comes up with, it probably won't be as detailed as it is/was in real life. )

[PBI]

Fenir,

Thanks for the information, I believe I will "lazyman" it and email, since I should probably finish my current degree first before starting another one in law. Sorry if my tone has been overly adversarial, I certainly had no intention of the thread degenerating into a flamewar, I simply wanted clarification on what seemed to me a surprising piece of information in your original post. I'm sure you will appreciate my reluctance to accept things people say on the internet at face value.

Since you have certainly provided ample clarification in your last post, I am happy to let the matter lie and let the thread get back on topic. Apologies Martok for the derailing.

[Zasz1234]

I agree with the idea of 'organic' change. Changing government should also be a serious proposition and hav some definite consequences. Whenever the ruling class shifts or changes there tends to be quite a few malcontents. Some ideas would be increased unrest with various rebels and brigands appearing. Going from more democratic to more authoritarian, or staying Authoritarian despite public opinion, would spawn large rag-tag peasant armies. The opposite move would spawn loyalist armies with better troops but fewer in number.

[Caerfanan]

The only thing I can say here is that if, in addition to what we can see in M2TW:
- naval batles are great
- religious matter could trigger the religious civil wars and european wars, and subsequent emigration
- the AI changes a bit to be more challenging for the game veterans

And that in addition, we could choose a form of government, which would of course trigger other warfare events (I just remember France's monarchy being -unsuccessfully- rescued by the surrounding monarchies just after the revolution)

That will probably be one of the greatest games. Ever

I'm just drooling, right now. Ow....

[Robespierre]

yes. it will be truly both amazing and great if it is possible to have a republican britain. up the revolution!

wikipedia is correct on salic law- the non-acceptance of this frankish custom by english kings of anglo-norman lineage lead directly to the hundred years war. salic law has never been accepted in England.

[pevergreen]

As always, attack the position not the person.

Just keep it clean boys

I'm repeating myself

As Martok said guys. I know PBI from a few other places, but I havent seen many of fenrir's posts, so I dont know if this is out of character.

I do know that you have both agreed to end it, but that may not stop it coming up again in the future.

It ends. Now.

I hope I sound imposing enough

G'day Gentlemen.

[fenir]

Poor Bloody Infantry,


No worries, I was more being tounge in cheek than anything.


PS: Yes, it is a very little known part of the law. only those people that study it, or are affected by it, really understand it. Because most people have no interest in the historical development of law.


If you are British, you will know this peice of Salic law.

The Son inherts the Lordship from their father. Only the eldest son.


PPS: pevergreen, where you being imposing now? Or are you going to be imposing? :P


Sincerely

fenir

[pevergreen]

But...I thought I was.

Bugger this, I'm gunna kill some orcs.

[fenir]

oh........sorry, one moment.




***********fenir quakes in his boots**************




Help Help........martok i'm being (repressed) upon........ tell him off quick martok.......


*runs away*...........better??




feir

[Martok]

*sigh* Knowing my fellow Orgahs, I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone quoted and/or paraphrased Monty Python here. I suppose I ought to keep an eye out for the Crack Suicide Squad now....


Anyway, to try and drag this thread back on-topic (yet again ): First off, I hope we'll at least get to see the three main governmental types: absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy, and republic. I would also really hope that the process of changing from one government type to another is more organic (so to speak) -- I've never liked strategy games where you had to "research" them -- a number of factors should be present in order for a faction to switch government types. I'm not sure how easy or difficult it would be to implement this from a programming standpoint, but it would certainly be sweet if something like this were in the game.

[fenir]

Martok,

I would have to agree with you whole heartedly.
My envisaged governments would number 9. And like you, i do hope that the chnging of each government type is a process of development condiitions. rather than you must research this.



PS: In CS, I often use the name, "Elite Suicide Squad".


Sincerely

fenir