so nearly 75% believe there is nothing devine about it. My faith is restored (pun intended)![]()
so nearly 75% believe there is nothing devine about it. My faith is restored (pun intended)![]()
There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
Sua Sponte
Nothing divine about Tribesman's YouTube video, or nothing divine ever? Divinus Arma left the poll question sufficiently vague that there's a lot of room for interpretation there.
When you come right down to it, the ability to speak in a language you never actually learned is fairly mild in terms of wow factor. Somebody getting whipped within an inch of their life, crucified and then run through with a spear... then on the 3rd day rising from the dead? If you can accept that could happen, you can pretty much accept anything.
Sorry I'm destroying your faith in human intelligence by believing such 'fairy tales'.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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Devine ever? for the record I do believe in a god and I do believe that devine events are possible I just find it to be highly unlikely that god would need to reveal himself through a devine act when, by his own creation of the human spirit he enabled us to question the acts verocity as well as his exsistence.
With the exception of the rising from the dead part the rest was an accepted practice in antiquity. You arent destroying my faith Don, I simply see the rising from the dead as a metaphor for ascending to another spirtual plain.Somebody getting whipped within an inch of their life, crucified and then run through with a spear... then on the 3rd day rising from the dead? If you can accept that could happen, you can pretty much accept anything.
Sadly, mythology has allowed some to accept it as fact that on the 3rd day this person rose via devine intervention. Fairy tale? call it what ever you want, I go with the spirtual ascention piece, its a far safer hedge on logical thought, the whole devinity schtict that requires people to believe just 'cause'.
Essentially Don its the same end we get to but we obtain it by different means, one requires a faith that is based on God interjecting into the everyday goings on of man. Which seems to me to be an attempt to have some control over an unknown (death).
But hey, Im not above admitting Im wrong, lets suppose that its infact true the whole god intervening via individuals on earth bit, how many 'christs' do you think we missed so far? If infact talking in tongues is a devine gift, why havent any of those who speak it been annointed yet?
You see thats the rub Don, you cant pick and choose a devine intervention, you can suggest one is more devine (like christ) but there again human arrogance takes precendent over the action its either an act of god or it isnt. who is to say that the person in the youtube video wasnt selected by god to be the next coming?
Which entity gets to make that call? By who's authority? Do you think a thousand years from now the mythology of the Youtube video will inspire people to particpate in organized surmons based on the hand me down teachings of the latest coming?
Come on Don, the divinity bit is to help us deal with what we cant answer. If it were truly devine why the hell would God mask it in an obscure jew thousands of years ago who's story was romanticed by a few followers? Why not just come out and reveal his will?
I know!!! because we have the ability to reason, Christ isnt necessary we had all of his rationals before he got whacked.
Anyway, I went on longer then I should I know it bothers you so no response is necessary Don.
Last edited by Odin; 06-23-2008 at 23:36.
There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.
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