Sengoku Jidai, Japanese interactive History

[Revolting Friendship]

Miyoshi Chokei. As soon as you move additional troops against my allies, we are officially at war. This is as far as the dialogue with Kyûshû goes,

Ôtomo Sorin

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Lord Yamana Toyosada: Lord Otomo Sorin. Thank You For Taking the Time to see me Today. I did not like your responces, but they are your own opinions,and I respect that/ However, I shall remain Allied to Lord Chokei. You need not have me inolved in these matters furthers unless my Clan is Threated.


Lord Yamana Toyosada

[Prince Cobra]

Miyoshi Chokei. As soon as you move additional troops against my allies, we are officially at war. This is as far as the dialogue with Kyûshû goes,

Ôtomo Sorin

I received your message. You are right in few things but you are wrong in many others. Yes, I avoid to interfere in distant areas where I have no influence (for example because the local clans refused to accept my nomination; yet I hope they will change their opinion for me). Instead I prefer to solve the problems near my borders. Is this wrong? Have I attacked somebody without a good reason?

My conscience about Asai is calm. I advised him to abandon the alliance with the Oda many times. It was in vain. I consider Kitabatake to be a peaceful clan and that he finally recognised my nomination. May I remind you that the Oda behaved in very arrogant way and offensed me and the Shogun several times? I supported Asakura for number of reasons and one of them is that he sent me help, something which Asai never did. We both know I had no other choice.

Finally, Otomo Sorin, I no longer want peace with you. It is useless. Your words confirmed my suspicions. Now we both know you will attack me not because of the Asai and Oda but because you fear me. But you are blind for the people you are allied with. If the next Kanrei came from these clans, you will remember my rule with good things (if you survive until then). They will not be weaker than me but just on the opposite. And you should know this. But look at Asai: he offered me to become my vassal if I am to help him. Is this an honourable step?

And I will ask you a question. As you said, you were unwilling to support Mori. Then I ask you what you promised to him to secure your success of the siege of Akizuki? I even start to think you urged Mori to hurry up (how come the fall of Akizuki coincided the attack on Yamana and Amako). And were you not greedy for power when you asked Ryozoji to become your vassal?

And is it not too early to speak in the name of whole Kyushu? Shimazu is well and his lands flourish... until you finish with Mori, Amako and Yamana.

But how generous is the mighty Otomo! How well he hides his greed behind beautiful phrases. If I am not a good Kanrei, tell me who are you and what good you did in order to have the right to judge me?

[Prince Cobra]

Good Yoshitsugu,

Surely your wits have left you? I have been friends with the Miyoshi clan for many years as I have been friends with yours. I shall not intervene in your war, nor shall I hope for the eventual victory of one side over the other. All that I wish for is a continuing friendship between our two peoples.

However, if you are indeed serous about this, we shall consider our treaty with the Myoshi to be much more binding; for they are the ones who have kept loyal to it.

Asakura Yoshikage

Reminder:Dated after the autumn of 1561, after the battle of Takeyama. My alliance with Asakura is quite old, too.

[Revolting Friendship]

Many words have already been wasted, apparantly to no avail. Further words may therefore rest, I have no wish to argue on with you. Now we know where we have eachother, Kanrei. Count on me to never change my mind.

Asai, Oda, Hatakeyama, Tokugawa:
Your desire to expand sufficiently to be able to protect yourselves against stronger aggressors is well founded and entirely understandable. You have done what you could to try to dodge their threats, and I have done what I can to assist. I regret that I cannot do more for you until my strenght has been restored. As soon as I am capable, I will come to your further aid. I hope that others will take action on your behalf until then.

[AggonyDuck]

To Oda Nobunaga

You acted in dishonour and dishonourable your end will be. You disobeyed the Shogun and you should only blame yourself for the misfortunes of your clan. The only advise I can give you is to save what has left of your honour and to commit seppuku. I have nothing against your clan and the lifes of your relatives will be spared. These are my terms and I consider them generous for a rebel.

Care to enlighten me dear Kanrei of what exactly my dishonourable deeds are? It is a bit hard to prove you otherwise when I do not even know which of my acts you consider dishonourable. As to disobeying the Shogun; he is nothing but a puppet, your puppet, and as long as he doesn't have command of his own forces, he shall remain one. I have disobeyed the commands of the Miyoshi clan and I will not submit to your rule. We shall meet each other one day and it shall be the sword that decides the meeting, not eloquent speech.

Oda Nobunaga

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Yamana Toyokuni, Son of Yamana Toyosada Arrives in the Camp of Yamana Toyosada, a few days after the Fall of Tsyunma Castle.


Yamana Toyosada, Dressed in his Samurai Armour, runs Over to his Son.


"My Son, How Are you!?"


"I am fine Father, What is happening?"

"Eastern Mimasaka Has Fallen to Enemies. We must recapture it or Our other Proviences will be open to attack, Plus our Ally Lord Amako will be under threat in Western Mimasaka."


The Pair walks over to a Tent and They Take a Seat inside. They begin to talk more.


"Father, Why Did you decline the challage to from the Mori Clan?"

" I have more things to worry about then Fighting And DYing in a Duel with Mori Motonari's Sons."

ToyoKuni Replies "But Father, are you not dishonored? Do you not Dishonor the Yamana Clan by decling this Challage?"

"Maybe, but There will be no clan If we don't fight and Deafet Ukita"


"No Body Dishonors Yamana Clan" Two Men say, out of the clear blue.




Yamana Toyosada Stands up and Hugs them.


"Yamanouchi Kazutoyo (in picture), New Governer Of Tajima, and Yamanaka Yukimori! Good To See you both"

"We Came as soon as we heard the news of the Castle falling. What do you wish us to Do?" The men asked.


"Well Yamanaka Yukimori, you will join along with me, and for you Yamanouchi Kazutoyo....."



"Dayimo, With all Due Respect, I want to challage Mori Motoharu, I am fully capable of doing so"


Yamana Toyosada repiles "This is no time for Duels. We must worry about our own proviences."

"Yes, But Not All Yamana Generals need be on our Soil. I think one of us can take the Risk to Take Him On."


"It is To Dangerous. You will be killed. Also, Lord Amako wants to destroy Mori Clan, Let him have the pleasure of doing it. We may assit him later on in doing so"


"Well Lord Yamana, Let lest have me take on a Ukita Warrior. I want to prove my worth to you"


"Ok, Yamanouchi, You have your wish, you may fight a Ukita General if you may. I will enjoy this."



A Messneger is summonded and leaves the Camp, and enters the Ukita Captital With this Message:



To Lord Ukita Naoie :

I, Lord Yamana Toyosada Challage your Clan to a duel. I however, will not fight, as in I have more important matters as you realize. Yamanouchi Kazutoyo Challages Your Brother, Ukita Tadaie, to a 1 on 1 Duel in the place of your choosing as long as it is Netrual Ground.

If Yamana Clan Wins, I demand that you leave Eastern Mimasaka and Never Return.
You Must replay Yamana Clan 3,000 Koku and 1 Cannon.
And Perhaps,Perhaps is a good word, we will engage in peace talks? Perhaps however.



Name your Terms if you win Ukita.



Signed, Yamana Toyosada"

[Seign Thelas]

Failure of a challenge. The brother of a daimyo is much larger of a loss than some general who shouldn't even be serving under a daimyo in the first place. Kazutoyo should be under the Oda clan.

[Prince Cobra]

Many words have already been wasted, apparantly to no avail. Further words may therefore rest, I have no wish to argue on with you. Now we know where we have eachother, Kanrei. Count on me to never change my mind.

You worked hard to achieve this result, Otomo Sorin. I see no reason to disappoint you.

Asai, Oda, Hatakeyama, Tokugawa:
Your desire to expand sufficiently to be able to protect yourselves against stronger aggressors is well founded and entirely understandable. You have done what you could to try to dodge their threats, and I have done what I can to assist. I regret that I cannot do more for you until my strenght has been restored. As soon as I am capable, I will come to your further aid. I hope that others will take action on your behalf until then.

How should I interpret this, Otomo Sorin, "defender of the weak"?

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Care to enlighten me dear Kanrei of what exactly my dishonourable deeds are? It is a bit hard to prove you otherwise when I do not even know which of my acts you consider dishonourable. As to disobeying the Shogun; he is nothing but a puppet, your puppet, and as long as he doesn't have command of his own forces, he shall remain one. I have disobeyed the commands of the Miyoshi clan and I will not submit to your rule. We shall meet each other one day and it shall be the sword that decides the meeting, not eloquent speech.

Oda Nobunaga

Ah, Oda Nobunaga. Yes, I will enlighten you since it seems you have lost any measure of honour

Some examples:

1) Using colours of the other clans without permission to do so. This is no longer be tolerated.

2) Offending the Shogun. I can not accept your lame statemenents.

3) You are lying without shame(the fake peace and the ambush of Kitabatake)

4)You poisoned the mind of my ally Nagamasa and turned him against his allies.



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OOC: I could be missing until the end of the week or at lastest until the middle of the next.

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Failure of a challenge. The brother of a daimyo is much larger of a loss than some general who shouldn't even be serving under a daimyo in the first place. Kazutoyo should be under the Oda clan.

Are you sure? He is Under Yamana Clan in Samurai Achives, so I believe he is a apart of the Yamana Clan , and if not, I will replace him with a Fictornial Character, since I'm not going to withdraw the challage.

[Seign Thelas]

Kazutoyo never served the Yamana.

And Yamanaka Yukimori was loyal to the Amago/Amako until his death.

Yoshioka Sadakatsu is a warrior under the Yamana, but as far as the Yamana clan goes, they didn't have much in the way of fighters.

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I shall re-edit it when I come back Saturday then :-)

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Kage, Where Moo Go!?


I ask because he hasn't posted since the 7th, didn't get any of my PM answered but one, and the same thing that happen last cycle is happening now, but the Decsions are not in yet, which make it even worst.

[Seign Thelas]

I want my info PM. ;_;

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I just we just have to sit and wait like last time.... But I hope this doesn't keep up or this IH might kill over soon then.

[Revolting Friendship]

But I hope this doesn't keep up or this IH might kill over soon then.

Well, if that should happen, I will start a new one similar to this.

[Kagemusha]

Well like i have already stated elsewhere. I cant currently access Org at all from home and the problem seems to be on my home PC. I will reinstall windows next weekend which will probably solve this issue.

[Prince Cobra]

Well like i have already stated elsewhere. I cant currently access Org at all from home and the problem seems to be on my home PC. I will reinstall windows next weekend which will probably solve this issue.

Good luck, Kage! . Good news! Btw, I started to think if you planned RL timing but fortunately I was mistaken.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Well like i have already stated elsewhere. I cant currently access Org at all from home and the problem seems to be on my home PC. I will reinstall windows next weekend which will probably solve this issue.

Yes, good luck Kage!

[AggonyDuck]

Ah, Oda Nobunaga. Yes, I will enlighten you since it seems you have lost any measure of honour

Some examples:

1) Using colours of the other clans without permission to do so. This is no longer be tolerated.

2) Offending the Shogun. I can not accept your lame statemenents.

3) You are lying without shame(the fake peace and the ambush of Kitabatake)

4)You poisoned the mind of my ally Nagamasa and turned him against his allies.

Thank you for enlighting me. Firstly both examples one and three were done out of sheer necessity. I am in a situation where only devious stratagems can ensure my survival. I do not have the manpower to fight a 'fair' battle and I think most would agree, barring my opponents, that it's the wisest approach for the Oda clan.

As to Nagamasa, the poison in his mind is his own. His ambitions were there before our alliance and contrary to mine they've not been culled by years of campaigning. To be clear, I would prefer to live in peace, but as a long as I do not hold the means to defend myself and my lands I will have to continue my campaigns.

As to offending your lapdog, well I hope he doesn't bite or go running to his master. That would truly be terrifying. He does not deserve my respect and will not do so until he himself leads an army to fight me.

Oda Nobunaga

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Well like i have already stated elsewhere. I cant currently access Org at all from home and the problem seems to be on my home PC. I will reinstall windows next weekend which will probably solve this issue.

Sounds Good Kage! Come Back Soon!!!



You should Anyhow Revolt, could do one based in the 1400's and can cover the Onin War, be intersting to have two Japanese IH's up.

[Prince Cobra]

Ahem, Kage....

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I think he sadly meant This upcomnig weekend! Why Do IH waits have to go so long lol.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I won't be Back Untill Monday or Tuesday. I hope This IH is rolling then :-).

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I'm going to be on Thursday, but I be away for 4-5 days to rest my wrists, Come back for 1-2 days, then I be gone for another 4-5 days.so I hope Kage comes back soon in that time span! Be Good While I'm gone :-)

[Kagemusha]

Im back. I am taking over Shimazu. Seingthelas will take over Hojo and {BHC} King Jan III Sobieski will take over Imagawa. Im just now starting to send the rest of the information to the central, eastern and Northern Clans.

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Im back. I am taking over Shimazu. Seingthelas will take over Hojo and {BHC} King Jan III Sobieski will take over Imagawa. Im just now starting to send the rest of the information to the central, eastern and Northern Clans.

Praise Be To Budda! Lord Yamana Toyosada is very pleased over the return of Storyteller Kagemusha!

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Im back. I am taking over Shimazu. Seingthelas will take over Hojo and {BHC} King Jan III Sobieski will take over Imagawa. Im just now starting to send the rest of the information to the central, eastern and Northern Clans.

When Will be the deadline Kage?

[Kagemusha]

Everyone has now their information pm´s.Talk with the new players, your allies and enemies.Deadline for your orders for summer will be Monday 11th of August.

[AggonyDuck]

Do you still have my decisions for this Summer or do I need to send them again?