HA HA HA! Iran is a threat to my armpit and that's about it!

[Idaho]

Israel and the US love the myth that Iran is desperate to wipe them off the map. It justifies their own aggression and threats in the region.

[Don Corleone]

Israel and the US love the myth that Iran is desperate to wipe them off the map. It justifies their own aggression and threats in the region.

Can you point to a speech in the past year or two where President Ajay DIDN'T specifically threaten to wipe Israel off the map? The phrase itself, "wipe them off the map", it's HIS. He put it into popular usage as it applies to Israel. How is that a self-perpetrated myth generated by Israel & the USA?

I'm really curious, Idaho. A guy walks up to you on the street with a carving knife and threatens your life .... you chuckle at him, pat him on the head and say "you don't really mean it" ??? When you call the cops on him, you overreacted ???

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Can you point to a speech in the past year or two where President Ajay DIDN'T specifically threaten to wipe Israel off the map? The phrase itself, "wipe them off the map", it's HIS. He put it into popular usage as it applies to Israel. How is that a self-perpetrated myth generated by Israel & the USA?

As I recall, he didn't use those words, but there was something in a translation. If only I could find the article...

EDIT: Wiki will have to do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud...22_translation

The translation presented by IRIB has been challenged by Mr. Arash Norouzi, who proposes that the statement "wiped off the map" was never made and that Ahmadinejad did not refer to the nation or land mass of Israel, but to the "regime occupying Jerusalem". He says that the Iranian government News Agency IRIB/IRNA translation is the source of the confusion:

One may wonder: where did this false interpretation originate? Who is responsible for the translation that has sparked such worldwide controversy? The answer is surprising. The inflammatory 'wiped off the map' quote was first disseminated not by Iran's enemies, but by Iran itself. The Islamic Republic News Agency, Iran's official propaganda arm, used this phrasing in the English version of some of their news releases covering the World Without Zionism conference. International media including the BBC, Al Jazeera, Time magazine and countless others picked up the IRNA quote and made headlines out of it without verifying its accuracy, and rarely referring to the source. Iran's Foreign Minister soon attempted to clarify the statement, but the quote had a life of its own. Though the IRNA wording was inaccurate and misleading, the media assumed it was true, and besides, it made great copy.

[Tribesman]

As I recall, he didn't use those words,

Don't quibble , if Don wants to keep "quoting" words that were never said then let him .
Whats even funnier is the non quote Don says

it's HIS.

isn't even his .
The quote (the real one not the one Don "quotes") was not HIS as dinnerjacket was quoting someone else who is dead .

If only I could find the article...

Well you could try MEMRI that Israeli propoganda outfit , if even they don't have the same quote as Don it should be pretty conclusive
Oh and you might just discover that in their translation they attribute the actual quote to the person who said it many many years ago , he is dead now but I think I may have mentioned that .

[Don Corleone]

Hoy maloy. Okay, you got me, Tribesman. Since he doesn't give speeches in English, President Ahmadinejad never technically used the phrase 'wiped off the map'. What he has said in Farsi has been translated to mean that, however.

I mean, Spiegel, that CIA propganda machine, can't be telling the truth.
Hmmm

And Micheal Bloomberg is Jewish, so this MUST be part of the Zionist conspiracy:
Double Hmm.

And dammit all, Mossad must have infiltrated The Independent. Hmm yet again.

But hey, I'm sure you're right. He has no hostility, poses no threat to Israel. I mean, when he says: Israel will disappear, he really means "what a nice bunch of young Jewish lads over there".

So, much like there are "No homosexuals in Iran", there surely is nothing for Israel to fear.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7&postcount=35

He doesn't pose any threat to Israel, besides working with Hezbollah. Why?

1) Iran is not strong enough. Any attack on Israel will meet a response along the lines of creating a new resort on the side of Lake Tehran.
2) Iran is not that stupid.

[Tribesman]

Well done Don , in trying to defend your "quote" that was never said you go on to use another "quote" that was never said
Hey Don you can provide whole volume of news articles using those same words , but if they are not what was said they are not what was said .
BTW it isn't a "technicality" as you put it . It is simply that what you are using in "" is not what was said in any language .
BTW2 can you guess who it was that dinnerjacket was quoting ? as in quoting not "quoting" when he said that , a good clue might be found in your 4th link .

[Don Corleone]

I don't know what you're trying to say, Tribesman, and I'm in no mood to try to figure it out.

Sometimes you're not supposedly allegedly negatively inversely the opposite of the converse of the obstruction of the obtusion of something and you should definitely maybe possibly invariably unlikely know just what that something might be.

Yep, understood you too there, Chief. Iran poses no threat to anybody. Ajay is all about peace.

[Xiahou]

Hoy maloy. Okay, you got me, Tribesman. Since he doesn't give speeches in English, President Ahmadinejad never technically used the phrase 'wiped off the map'. What he has said in Farsi has been translated to mean that, however.

I mean, Spiegel, that CIA propganda machine, can't be telling the truth.
Hmmm

And Micheal Bloomberg is Jewish, so this MUST be part of the Zionist conspiracy:
Double Hmm.

And dammit all, Mossad must have infiltrated The Independent. Hmm yet again.

But hey, I'm sure you're right. He has no hostility, poses no threat to Israel. I mean, when he says: Israel will disappear, he really means "what a nice bunch of young Jewish lads over there".

So, much like there are "No homosexuals in Iran", there surely is nothing for Israel to fear.

But, if you translate it instead as "Israel should vanish from the pages of history" it just sounds so much nicer than 'wiped off the map'. Totally changes the meaning doesnt it?

[Tribesman]

But, if you translate it instead as "Israel should vanish from the pages of history" it just sounds so much nicer than 'wiped off the map'. Totally changes the meaning doesnt it?

But as that isn't what was said either what was your point again ?
Come on Xiahou give the proper quote and then try and explain how your governments stance on the issue is so very different

[HoreTore]

Can you point to a speech in the past year or two where President Ajay DIDN'T specifically threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

Barking. Nothing else.

[Spino]

Israel and the US love the myth that Iran is desperate to wipe them off the map. It justifies their own aggression and threats in the region.

If Iran didn't have a history of financing & supporting terrorist groups in the region and wasn't enriching uranium and developing and procuring intermediate ranged missiles do you think the US or Israel would give as big a damn over their threats and propaganda, much less make a huge international stink over them? Whether this 'myth' is real or imagined can Israel (and to a much lesser extent the US) afford to ignore it?

What does Israel have to gain from wiping out Iran? Cheap real estate? Nope. Oil? Nope. Arable land? Nope. Water? Nope. Raw materials? Nope. Clearly Israel is reacting to conditions which it believes will lead to a situation where it will be under direct threat of nuclear weapons. Iran's repeated saber rattling with respect to Israel goes back much farther than our little adventure in Iraq. If Iran's threats directed at Israel are its own weird way of getting back at the US then they're clearly playing with fire. Historically Israel has shown that it is quite willing to go after any threat that it believes will pose a serious threat to its existence, especially after being attacked several times since its creation.

Considering you're not the God fearing/spiritual type I find it odd that you insist on looking at this situation using a black and white compass of morality or weighing it on some cosmic karmic scales. Whatever Israel did or did not do to its Arab neighbors in the past (i.e. its 'aggression') the idea that it is supposed to sit back and let a Persian nation openly threaten it while deploying medium range missles and refining uranium because of some perceived karmic payback for current & past sins is ridiculous. Israel feels seriously threatened and it is taking steps to eliminate the threat, period. The US happens to be an ally of Israel and is taking measures to protect its own interests in the region.

[Lemur]

Oh noes!

[Adrian II]

Oh noes!

You sure those aren't Patriots, Lemur?

[Don Corleone]

Lemur, that is truly classic. I have finally learned the true meaning of:

ROTFLMAO.

Put a cat in there and you could put it on icanhascheezburger.com.

[Marshal Murat]

I don't know, after that kinda evidence, I have to say that Iran is a greater threat than any of us could've imagined...

[Ronin]

OMG the Iranians have developed a missile hedgehog system!

the situation is even worse than I thought!!!!

[LittleGrizzly]

I think most of us think the Iranians aren't suicidal enough to carry out any attacks at the moment, i think some worry more extreme elements could take the iranian goverment in that direction, i don't think this will happen because its sort of a democracy out there and democracys aren't generally suicidal.

I think the best thing we could do for this situation is to stop acting so aggresively against Iran

Great pic Lemur, looks like the Iranian missles are runnig on windows...

[Divinus Arma]

Oh noes!

YES!!!!!!

I LOVE IT!! ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!


AWESOME!!!!


That is one of the best things I have ever seen on the Org. Tell me you are responsible for it!

[Pannonian]

I especially enjoyed the missile heading down.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

@ Lemur:


I'm comforted by the Syrian analogy, Adrian.

[Lemur]

That is one of the best things I have ever seen on the Org. Tell me you are responsible for it!

I wish I could claim credit, but I can't. The photo comes from a boing boing Photoshop contest, and it made me laugh so hard tears were squirting out of my eyes, so I had to share. Some other worthies:

But none of the other entries were nearly as funny as the "Launch all Zigs!"

[Dâriûsh]

Ha ha ha ha!!! You just made my day!

[Adrian II]

I wish I could claim credit, but I can't. The photo comes from a boing boing Photoshop contest, and it made me laugh so hard tears were squirting out of my eyes, so I had to share. Some other worthies:

But none of the other entries were nearly as funny as the "Launch all Zigs!"

ROFLMAO!

Jesus, I'm coughing and spewing breakfast toast here!

[PanzerJaeger]

@Lemur

Many of Iran's claims related to missile tests during "Great Prophet III" war games -- appear to be smoke and mirrors!

The "Great Prophet III"?

What a bunch of clowns. Sometime's I wonder how far off South Park is in it's portrayal of these guys.. "Durka durka", indeed.

[drone]

Oh noes!

Looks like our 4th of July fireworks display (the 6 drunk guys with bernzomatics trying not to catch fire were obviously photoshopped out though ). I didn't know the Iranians were watching us, their agents are everywhere!

Nice find!