A Universal Ethic

[ICantSpellDawg]

Good and Evil are defined by the God of the Jews and the Catholic Church. Without either of those, nobody's opinions on superlatives matter much to me. in the absence of those all is allowed, irrespective of their arbitrary good/bad value.

Man's Laws can be more stabilizing and less ideological.

[Fragony]

Good and Evil are defined by the God of the Jews and the Catholic Church. Without either of those, nobody's opinions on superlatives matter much to me. in the absence of those all is allowed, irrespective of their arbitrary good/bad value.

Man's Laws can be more stabilizing and less ideological.

But all these ethics appear in just about every religion/spirituality to one extend or another, religious rules are just a social contract I think, the actual values are pretty much universal. We are social creatures so we know how best to live with eachother, doesn't have to be ethical necesarily more based on convenience probably. If you want to narrow that down to a single religion I would love to know why.

[ICantSpellDawg]

But all these ethics appear in just about every religion/spirituality to one extend or another, religious rules are just a social contract I think, the actual values are pretty much universal. We are social creatures so we know how best to live with eachother, doesn't have to be ethical necesarily more based on convenience probably. If you want to narrow that down to a single religion I would love to know why.

Why not? I have no master apart from God as revealed to and interpreted first by the Jews and later by the Catholic Church. Absent those things, there is nothing that I should or shouldn't do. I could create my own morality, or adopt someone else's, but why?

Democratic or humanistic concepts of ethics or morality have no bearing on me aside from their punishment value in the event of a transgression.

All of the morals and ethics of Christianity do not appear in all other religions - that is fallacious. Neither do all other religions carry the same transcendent weight.

The idea of a posthumous and eternal judgment of right and wrong is an excellent bedrock for moral and ethical concepts.

[Fragony]

All of the morals and ethics of Christianity do not appear in all other religions - that is fallacious. Neither do all other religions carry the same transcendent weight.

Well I am pretty sure I can find each and every value in christian religion in other religons, for example transendance, every religion had a way of reaching that state of transendence, doesn't have to be the same way but there is always something to reach, all the time.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Well I am pretty sure I can find each and every value in christian religion in other religons, for example transendance, every religion had a way of reaching that state of transendence, doesn't have to be the same way but there is always something to reach, all the time.

You will find them in pieces, but not in whole. I'm not a lowest common denominator believer.

[Fragony]

You will find them in pieces, but not in whole. I'm not a lowest common denominator believer.

That's ok that is yours not mine, but you will find it in pieces because the world is made out of pieces I think. But they are to be found to a certain extend everywhere, that is why I think these values are universal, no matter your sizes a suit is still made out of cloth and that cloth is universal values, not right or wrong but acceptable and unacceptable, all in the eye of the beholder.