Things that never happen

**Che Roriniho** · 07-20-2008, 23:20

Originally Posted by Havok.

Thats something rare

Yeah, who plays as Pontos?

**Havok.** · 07-20-2008, 23:21

Originally Posted by Che Roriniho

Yeah, who plays as Pontos?

LoL

**Hax** · 07-21-2008, 00:34

Actually, the go further in on that.

You've got me started now.

I used my starting stacks to conquer Ankyra and Nikaia, then I lost Amaseia to the Arche Seleukeia. I was -15,000 in debt, had very little units, so I sieged Ipsos, they sallied (2 v 1 on balance), and I actually won the battle. So, I had conquered Ipsos, things started looking up.

The next turn, Amaseia revolted back. With a pretty stable economy (partially gained from selling the AS barracks (4,000 mnai, go figure), I was back on the track. I seized Mazaka shortly thereafter, offered them a ceasefire, they accepted, so good. I started building a decent Galato-Pontike army, and I took Side and Tarsos from the Ptolemaioi. Then I offered them a ceasefire and trade rights, they accepted, so awesome. I took Sinope, offered the KH a ceasefire, got trade rights with the Sauromatae (who controlled the Bosphoros), and cash started flowing in. With that cash, I managed to bribe Sardis.

Then the AS betrayed me, so I sent a spy to Trapezous (which they had conquered), which revolted to the KH, and then I took Ani-Kamah from the AS. Asia Minor almost secured, now I'm looking for stuff to conquer. Sieging Pergamon as well now.

**Apgad** · 07-21-2008, 01:25

I had some boats drop a few units off a Carthage for re-training, and then the Admiral landed too! I walked him around for a bit, and then tried to fight some rebels that were hanging around, just to see what would happen. If I tried to fight the battle I got a CTD, and autocalc he got slaughtered (26 men against 300, and boats aren't too good on land...).

**Legosoldier** · 07-21-2008, 06:26

Originally Posted by Apgad

I had some boats drop a few units off a Carthage for re-training, and then the Admiral landed too! I walked him around for a bit, and then tried to fight some rebels that were hanging around, just to see what would happen. If I tried to fight the battle I got a CTD, and autocalc he got slaughtered (26 men against 300, and boats aren't too good on land...).

How did u get the admiral to get off the boat?

**Senshi** · 07-21-2008, 10:20

Had one odd campaign with the KH, I concentrated first on Asia Minor and then turned westwards towards Epeiros. After I quickly routed all of the Epeirote home lands they only had a (strong) base in South Italy left (Rhegion and Taras). I prepared a large scale naval invasion and was surprised when after my invasion I sent ahead some spies who detected that Epeiros by now had taken Messana, Syrakousai, Arpi, Capua(!) and Rome(!!!). I have not the slightest idea how they could have managed that, SPQR had conquered all of Northern Italy including Segestica, Massalia, Tolosa and Emporion.
Several years before I already had allied with SPQR to force a two-front war upon Epeiros, which worked quite good.

Well, on the other hand, Epeiros had not much left of big armys so I rather quickly could crush their garrisons and occupy their lands (holding Asia Minor and the Aegaeis makes you an economic superpower...all mercs to me!) and finally conquered Rome, vanishing Epeiros.

Another interesting thing: The alliance with the SPQR which already lasted about 10 years (though we shared common borders, Segestica-Dalminion) still lasted another 15 years where SPQR mainly expanded north- and westwards and only when about five or six full stack armies had cumulated at our Italian border (you think I would return Rome to my allies? Ha, think again

) when they marched simultaneously on Rome and Arpi, shortly followed by another two stacks marching towards Dalminion.

Playing with win_conditions-mod and playing on "Hard" campaign difficulty seems to help the AI sanity in Bi.exe a lot

**Hax** · 07-21-2008, 10:41

Hmm..maybe I should start playing with BI.exe again.

**Conqueror** · 07-21-2008, 18:19

Originally Posted by Senshi

I prepared a large scale naval invasion and was surprised when after my invasion I sent ahead some spies who detected that Epeiros by now had taken Messana, Syrakousai, Arpi, Capua(!) and Rome(!!!). I have not the slightest idea how they could have managed that, SPQR had conquered all of Northern Italy including Segestica, Massalia, Tolosa and Emporion.
Several years before I already had allied with SPQR to force a two-front war upon Epeiros, which worked quite good.

Such things are pretty common, actually. My theory is that the computer hates the player and will manipulate things behind screen so that those factions at war with the player will be aggressive and generally successful, while their AI foes (especially the player's allies) tend to be passive losers.

**Rilder** · 07-21-2008, 23:16

Originally Posted by Senshi

Had one odd campaign with the KH, I concentrated first on Asia Minor and then turned westwards towards Epeiros. After I quickly routed all of the Epeirote home lands they only had a (strong) base in South Italy left (Rhegion and Taras). I prepared a large scale naval invasion and was surprised when after my invasion I sent ahead some spies who detected that Epeiros by now had taken Messana, Syrakousai, Arpi, Capua(!) and Rome(!!!). I have not the slightest idea how they could have managed that, SPQR had conquered all of Northern Italy including Segestica, Massalia, Tolosa and Emporion.
Several years before I already had allied with SPQR to force a two-front war upon Epeiros, which worked quite good.

I had something simmular in my KH game. (Map posted in faction progression thread)

After Epeiros was for the most part pushed out of Greece they apparently took Itallia by force, capturing everything except the lands north of Segestica I think, and Arpi, a 52 year old was living in arpi so I "rped" (using dipomats and shit loads of cash) that he, seeing his situation hopeless (An Epeirote Army was marching his way!) sought refuge with the Koinon Hellenon, granted, he immediatly fled the city and was picked up by the Royal Athenian Fleet and taken to Greece, A few seasons later Arpi fell to Epeiros.

**Apgad** · 07-23-2008, 02:50

Originally Posted by Legosoldier

How did u get the admiral to get off the boat?

I have no idea! It might have to do with the fact that Carthage is right on the shore and you can move troops directly from city to ship and vice versa. That's what I was doing, but instead of just troops moving into the city, all the sailors jumped ship too! Then I could just walk them around out of the city into the countryside.

I always meant to play around to see if I could recreate, but never got around to it...