Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Last edited by CountArach; 07-22-2008 at 13:24.
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Whatever next , support for the liquidation of the warsaw ghetto because some of them jews done some nasty stuff![]()
Fragony, just because the bosnians did terrible things is NO EXCUSE to massacre them back.
Those involved in serbian massacres should be punished, and those involved in bosnian massacres should be punished. Capiche?
And you can't possibly tell me that someone who rounds up 8000 random civilians and executes all of them is a nice guy. There is no possible justification for such an act whatsoever. It will always be evil. And if your serbian friend supports such things, he is a best a retard.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
I think his friend is one of the Duch soldiers the Netherlands send there.
And a charming fellow he must be...
Yes, and it reinforces what a friend of mine who was there (and no doubt of higher rank than Fragony's) told me, i.e. that the Dutch troops in Srebrenica were a bunch of ill-prepared amateurs compared to, for instance, the British, French and Danish contingents in Bosnia.
Brenus, your reasoning doesn't stand up to elementary scrutiny by a court of law. The victims were dispersed in groups over a wide area, prior to being killed in more or less remote spots. The fact that not all of them have been exhumed and properly identified does not detract from the intentionality, the systematic nature or the mass scale of this murder. I share your feelings about the ineptitude and lack of balance of the court in The Hague, but that shouldn't tempt us into denying crimes of this magnitude.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Quite. Certainly not amateurs but the geniusses in the Hague wanted a low-key mission, so no heavy arms that doesn't really do much against tanks. He's lucky to be alive, don't blame the soldiers for the politicians. And the actual numbers are a bit off because a lot of the people captured came from afghanistan, pakistan, didn't you know that?![]()
Last edited by Fragony; 07-22-2008 at 14:30.
And the fact is the Serbian government after long denying any role in the events says over 7800 were done away with and the Bosnian serb government apologises for the mass murder and puts the figure at 8732The facts are:
Accepted/Media figures: 7000-8000 men and boys killed
Bodies founded: 2 442.
The fact is the bodies buried in the Srebrenica Memorial Complex are not all killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place. Ok, that according a Serbian Historian, Milivoje Ivanisevic but …
Sneaky disguise. It is definitely good that they caught him at long last.
TosaInu shall never be forgotten.
“Many have been recovered over the years, if not all identified. They have been found in mass graves with eyes blindfolded, hands bound, and lethal bullet wounds, some bullets demonstrably of machine gun calibre. The total number of bodies found in mass graves in Kamenica Valley alone tops 4000. There are witnesses to all stages of the deportation and killings of Srebrenica inhabitants. There is no doubt that it was mass murder.”
Adrian, I actually disagree: We have some images and witnesses of massacre that happened but no real evidences…
Graves were found but figures don’t add up.
The facts are:
Accepted/Media figures: 7000-8000 men and boys killed
Bodies founded: 2 442.
The fact is the bodies buried in the Srebrenica Memorial Complex are not all killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place. Ok, that according a Serbian Historian, Milivoje Ivanisevic but …
Now from Alexandar Pavic Article:
“In the summer of 2005, on the 10-year anniversary of the event, the "Srebrenica Research Group," composed of mostly American and British media and academic figures, as well as former U.N. civil officials and military observers with ex-Yugoslavia experience, put up a website in which the entire "Srebrenica massacre" account was reconsidered and demystified.
Instead of the 7-8,000 figure, U.N. officials and U.S. Congress experts were quoted giving figures of "700-800," "the low hundreds," "about 2,000 Muslims and Serbs total," etc. Henry Wieland, head of the U.N. Human Rights Commission, who spent days interviewing Srebrenica refugees in July 1995, is quoted as saying that he did not find "anyone who'd seen any atrocity committed with their own eyes."
So, yes, Karadic lawyers will do well with this.
“I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered”
So his lawyers will challenge that. Civilians? Some of their families received Social Benefit as Veteran Benefit.
8000? Where are the bodies?
What about the Military Operations of Oric against the Serbs village? It was not a disarmed safe area but a military base…
I really hope we will be able to follow the trial…
Last edited by Brenus; 07-22-2008 at 13:41.
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"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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