EB and the MTW2 heir system

**Tellos Athenaios** · 07-26-2008, 09:50

IIRC alpaca made a script [for a different mod] which let you appoint the heir? Basically the position of "heir" is a trait, and traits can be assigned via script...

**Dumbass** · 07-26-2008, 13:28

Surely CA didn't delete it from the engine? That's an incredibly foolish idea if they did. If they have only disabled it, wouldn't it be possible to re-enable it somehow? Seeing as they didn't delete the marian reforms, only disabled it.

**Foot** · 07-26-2008, 16:10

One can only hope ... and research. However I think most people have given up on making it work. Mods far more advanced that EB use the auto chosen heir, and I don't think there is very much hope this will change.

Foot

**Xtiaan72** · 07-27-2008, 23:12

Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios

IIRC alpaca made a script [for a different mod] which let you appoint the heir? Basically the position of "heir" is a trait, and traits can be assigned via script...

So what your saying is when the faction leader has his first son...he is given the trait heir....and then the script "forces" the game to give that character the crown ( from his uncle the regent or what-ever)

What is the name of the mod that alpaca put it in?

**BozosLiveHere** · 07-28-2008, 03:33

Giving the Heir trait to another family member changes nothing. Unfortunately, for all we know the auto-assignment of heirs is a hardcoded "feature" of M2TW.

**Xtiaan72** · 07-28-2008, 07:52

Yea, can't believe they did that....

**Reno Melitensis** · 07-29-2008, 17:00

Why choose your own faction leader and not let the AI do it?. After all leaders where not picked only on their qualities, but also on their connections and corruption. Bribing the King maybe in choosing you as his heir. Thats why some leaders failed in History and where assassinated, while other archived immortality.

Cheers.

**Mithridates VI Eupator** · 07-29-2008, 17:11

yea, but still...

Even if they tried to bribe you, you could chose, wheter to accept the bribe or not.
Anyway, as it appears to be hradcoded we will just have to accept it, and to be honest, I think it's something I can live with.

**Captain Trek** · 07-29-2008, 17:42

Originally Posted by Mithridates VI Eupator

yea, but still...

Even if they tried to bribe you, you could chose, wheter to accept the bribe or not.
Anyway, as it appears to be hradcoded we will just have to accept it, and to be honest, I think it's something I can live with.

Yea... Particularly if factions (such as Rome) where the family tree system would be ahistorical use the system that the Teutonic Order in Kingdoms use instead (where there is no family tree)...

**Xtiaan72** · 07-29-2008, 19:59

Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis

Why choose your own faction leader and not let the AI do it?. After all leaders where not picked only on their qualities, but also on their connections and corruption. Bribing the King maybe in choosing you as his heir. Thats why some leaders failed in History and where assassinated, while other archived immortality.

Cheers.

Because MTW2 auto select system doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason to how heirs are chosen....The logical choices get skipped... It will skip from brother to brother moving right and then suddenly it's choosing someone on the other end of the family tree who is a second son....An you wonder is it because that guy has some logical quality...Like high chivalry or piety or a trait that makes it make sense...But no the guy is a frigging toaster and his older brother is a genius.....

It's absolutely one of the lamest game mechanics in MTW2..

**General Appo** · 07-30-2008, 07:15

Yeah, in my first MTW2 campaign I was playing England and had a great family part, everyone was a freaking genius and I trained up the future prince and his brothers to become great kings once that day came. Then their father the current Prince died, and my most worthless guy of all, the son of the Kings cousin, became Prince, instead of the ones I´d trained, who were his closest relatives as nieces, seeing as he didn´t have any sons or remaining brothers. When I then found out that I was stuck with this worthless sucker as my future King I was pissed. Stupid idea from CA.