OOC Thread and Chatroom

[TinCow]

As a result of Hypatios' expulsion, Kalameteros no longer meets the requirements for promotion to Dux once his time-in-rank is achieved. Fortunately, the timer itself has not been disrupted, as Asteri had two Antypatos. Conversely, Hypatios is now a Comes and has had his timer for Patrikios reset, as he did not reach the total number of turns before he lost the rank of Antypatos.

[deguerra]

yep. that was noted. once iconium and hopefully caesarea are given to house members we should be set again

let me just say OOC that I quite liked this little episode even if it hurt IC. Certainly keeps things interesting.

Are the votes obvious enough for you to change the save TC?

[Privateerkev]

As a result of Hypatios' expulsion, Kalameteros no longer meets the requirements for promotion to Dux once his time-in-rank is achieved. Fortunately, the timer itself has not been disrupted, as Asteri had two Antypatos. Conversely, Hypatios is now a Comes and has had his timer for Patrikios reset, as he did not reach the total number of turns before he lost the rank of Antypatos.

This is going to sound like a weird nitpick but I try to keep track of these things so I need to ask.

What constitutes 5 turns?

Ampelas met the requirement for Antypatos at the beginning of 1110.

Makedonios met the requirement for Antypatos during 1110.

Do the both meet the required 5 turns in that position by the beginning of 1117?

(turns will go 1110, 1111, 1113, 1114, 1116, 1117.)

So, for both men, does 1110 count as a full turn even though they made the rank at different points in the turn? Or does Mak have to wait until the beginning of 1119? And this is pertinent because both avatars will probably gain land-holding vassals this term.

[TinCow]

5 turns from the turn they got it, no matter when they got it during that turn. The only reason I mark the date they got the position rather than the date their time-in-rank will be up is because the 1.5 years per turn makes the math a bit less even and I would prefer to use the more exact measure of the starting point.

On another note, I am now back home and will be able to resume my usual duties without any proxies or further delays.

[Privateerkev]

5 turns from the turn they got it, no matter when they got it during that turn. The only reason I mark the date they got the position rather than the date their time-in-rank will be up is because the 1.5 years per turn makes the math a bit less even and I would prefer to use the more exact measure of the starting point.

Sorry but I usually have a hard time grasping this kind of thinking.

Does 5 turns mean 5 including the one where you get the rank, or 5 more turns? Will it take affect the turn after the 5 turns are met?

Will Mak have his "time in rank" requirement at 1116, 1117, or 1119?

Again I apologize but for some reason I have always struggled at this kind of thinking...

[TinCow]

Assuming that the rank was first achieved in 1110 and this (1110, 1111, 1113, 1114, 1116, 1117) is the proper date list (the questionable nature is the reason I don't post the end date) then the time in rank will be achieved in 1117. Think of it like your birthday. The day you are born is not year 1, it is year 0. The date that a person achieves their rank is turn 0, not turn 1.

[Privateerkev]

Ah thanks. Believe it or not, I've always been confused by how birthdays worked too. It's just the way my brain is wired.

But the way you explained it made sense. Plus, if it didn't, I can just use your example and apply it to all future instances of this.

And as far as I know, the way SS numbers the years seem pretty constant. Meaning, it goes 1 year, 2 years, 1 year, 2 years, ect...

So, once you know this pattern, you can figure out the year of the end point with accuracy.

[Andres]

Forgive me if I sound like a complete idiot right now or if this has been posted somewhere, but do we have to uninstall/re-install something for LoTR 1.2 or can we just install it like that?