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[Herkus]

Here are the comfirned facts about land battles:

* maximum of twenty controllable units.

Thats quite disapointing. Certainly not suitable for 18th century warfare tactics.

[Sheogorath]

I like that map. And here I thought we were gonna have to do some kind of magical timewarp to get to India. But it looks like the land-based powers will have a chance too :D

Also, it'll be interesting to see how they do the Persians. They were rather rich, as I understand it, making a nice income from selling scientific instruments and so forth, and were still regarded as something of a 'center of learning', even if the only people they could stand up to militarily were the Ottomans.

On a small note, it seems Portugal doesnt get any colonies. The little bit of Brazil thats showing is blank, although that is understandable, I suppose, given that the main effort was further south...

EDIT:
And I do hope they dont make the Russians red. That would be rather stereotypical >_>;

[Mailman653]

And I do hope they dont make the Russians red. That would be rather stereotypical >_>;

I thought they wore mostly green back then.

[Sheogorath]

Well as I and a couple others have said before (and no one has yet to contradict the point), I have serious doubts as to how practical (or even possible) it would be to manage land forces larger than that. It's hard to imagine a UI/control scheme that would allow one to effectively manage armies approaching the size of those that were fielded during the time period.

Not to mention which, larger armies in ETW would almost certainly require a lot more processing power, and it's pretty clear that the majority of PC's are going to be taxed trying to run the game as it is. To increase the size of the armies would make Empire unplayable for most fans altogether.


Sheogorath: Yeah, I too noticed the omission of Brazil as a Portuguese colony. Admittedly odd, but I wouldn't read too much into that map, at least not yet.

Aye, I mean, even in the older games two full stacks on both sides is kind of pushing it. I'd hate to have to manage MORE guys.

As to Brazil, it might've been left out for gameplay purposes...I mean, if I recall, its one major contribution to the period was to host the Portuguese royalty when they ran from Napoleon. Maybe the area was left blank as colony fodder. After all, Russia's gotta start out with something :P

I thought they wore mostly green back then.

Aye. Early Imperial Russian uniforms were primarily green (outside of the cavalry, who wore pretty much any color you can think of...but that applied to everybody), with some regimental color.

But looking at that map, the people at CA seem to be rather fond of red. The British, Polish, Russians, Norway, and Portugal

Admittedly, some of them are orange, but still...

[Discoman]

I'm glad that we can't build cities, that would just make it overly complex when it comes to trade among other things (Boundaries). Would be nice if the names would change if you took a natives' settlement as an imperial power, ie New Amsterdam becoming New York.

[sassbarman]

my apologies on the misquote not sure what i was looking at.

[Martok]

Aye, I mean, even in the older games two full stacks on both sides is kind of pushing it. I'd hate to have to manage MORE guys.

Indeed. Also, like I said, most computers are probably going to really be chugging running the game as it is. To significantly increase the number of men on the battlefield would likely bring our machines to a screeching halt -- they'd simply quit in protest.

As to Brazil, it might've been left out for gameplay purposes...I mean, if I recall, its one major contribution to the period was to host the Portuguese royalty when they ran from Napoleon. Maybe the area was left blank as colony fodder. After all, Russia's gotta start out with something :P

Well it's perhaps worth noting that one of the CA guys (forget his name) over at the official forums said that the picture of the campaign map looked like a very early version, so things could very well have changed since then. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean Brazil will start out as a Portuguese colony after all, but at least it's still a possibility.

[Sheogorath]

Indeed. Also, like I said, most computers are probably going to really be chugging running the game as it is. To significantly increase the number of men on the battlefield would likely bring our machines to a screeching halt -- they'd simply quit in protest.

Or burst into flames :P

Well it's perhaps worth noting that one of the CA guys (forget his name) over at the official forums said that the picture of the campaign map looked like a very early version, so things could very well have changed since then. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean Brazil will start out as a Portuguese colony after all, but at least it's still a possibility.

Pehraps. But who wants to play as the Portuguese anyway? I mean, wasnt their one role in this period of history to get flattened by the French, then fight a horrifically bloody guerrilla war with the Spanish? :P

[Husar]

Pehraps. But who wants to play as the Portuguese anyway?

I do.

I hope we get a lot of interesting playable factions, or at least unlockable by some txt editing or so.

[Lusitani]

Or burst into flames :P





Pehraps. But who wants to play as the Portuguese anyway? I mean, wasnt their one role in this period of history to get flattened by the French, then fight a horrifically bloody guerrilla war with the Spanish? :P

Hmmm no. To start with we weren't flattened by the French, the court moved to Brasil escorted by the Royal Navy, so basically they just settled in without much fighting due to the obvious confusion and took most of our professional army with them to die in far away places like Russia ( the ones that didnt go to Brasil of course).
Also the fact that there were 3 invasions of Portugal by the French must mean something no?.!?!
Although there were constant guerrilla actions against them the real fighting was done with the help of the English with armed and trained a newly formed portuguese army, which by the way, comprised more than half of his troops in the Peninsular War, to the point of being praised as the "fighting cocks" of his army...and i dont think that they were very good singers.... not to wonder though, since most of the times they were the 1st sent in :P .

Roughly around the time period of ETW Brasil as a colony reached its peak and importance. Actually i find quite absurd that Portugal is in the game considering that most of the World under Portugal's control and influence doesnt even appear in the game's map. Besides Brasil, there's the obvious omission of several african territories(even if they only gained its importance in the 2nd half of the XIX Century), and most of the Asian ones except the indian sub-continent that seems to be part of the map.

I am not sure however if, with the mention of guerrilla war with the spaniards, you mean agaisnt the French alongside the spaniards or against the Spanish. If you meant against the Spanish you are mistaken of course, because we have always dealt with them ( and the other way around) in plain, normal military encounters even though i am sure that sporadic "guerrilla" tactics might have been used here and there.

Finally considering the fact that Portugal was the 1st european country to start a globalized empire in 1415 which lasted until 1999( technically since some european countries still hold sovereignty of overseas territories against the will of at least some of its native inhabitants). And also the fact that i find interesting that around 1415 Portugal had around 1 million inhabitants and still managed to reach far corners of the World...sometimes being the 1st europeans to do so.

So...I for one would like to play as Portugal as of course other factions that might pose an interesting challenge.


PS: I am more interested however in seeing a good AI specially in what comes to diplomacy and more importance given to supply chains affecting army/navy operations.

[Martok]

Thats quite disapointing. Certainly not suitable for 18th century warfare tactics.

Well as I and a couple others have said before (and no one has yet to contradict the point), I have serious doubts as to how practical (or even possible) it would be to manage land forces larger than that. It's hard to imagine a UI/control scheme that would allow one to effectively manage armies approaching the size of those that were fielded during the time period.

Not to mention which, larger armies in ETW would almost certainly require a lot more processing power, and it's pretty clear that the majority of PC's are going to be taxed trying to run the game as it is. To increase the size of the armies would make Empire unplayable for most fans altogether.


Sheogorath: Yeah, I too noticed the omission of Brazil as a Portuguese colony. Admittedly odd, but I wouldn't read too much into that map, at least not yet.