The last time I played a Civ game it was Civ III Gold Edition and I couldn't get the hang of it after hours of play! I always ended up having my populace rebel and riot setting my cities on fire while my armies smashed and conquered. I would be forced to return, kill off my population and then go back and regain all that I had lost, including my own territory! And I really tried dangit !! Now, how is Civ IV compared? I almost bought it but couldn't decided to get that or that Rome game by the chumps who did Europe Unviversalis.