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    Default Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Russia has moved forces into Georgian lands, as confirmed. It's interesting how the situation is developing. According to the Russians they have moved in to counter a Georgian counterattack, and I haven't seen a Georgian denial of this. However, Georgians claim Russia has captured Gori, which Russia denies. We'll see who is speaking the truth there.



    Good post Adrian.
    You still think the Russians are noble peacekeepers? Are they still trying to protect Russian citizens (you know, the one's who got the citizenship from the Russians)?

    You know, I'm surprised you still won't admit that Russia is doing this for no one but themselves. I'm glad Georgia is trying to push the Russians out of their land.
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    Default Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    You still think the Russians are noble peacekeepers? Are they still trying to protect Russian citizens (you know, the one's who got the citizenship from the Russians)?

    You know, I'm surprised you still won't admit that Russia is doing this for no one but themselves. I'm glad Georgia is trying to push the Russians out of their land.
    Of course it's Russian power politics, that's a no-brainer. And in a sense it is a response to Nato power politics with regard to Kosovo.

    If you think Nato should once again react from a power perspective alone, you are misguided. We would make the same mistake as in Kosovo and invite further trouble down the road. Nato is not being attacked here. Georgia is, and it partly has itself to blame.

    Nato should hold itself to standards of legality and legitimacy. Both parties in this war are clearly wrong in most of their actions and demands. Which is why we are trying to sort out these issues in this forum, with an eye to deciding which solution would be just and what actions would bring it about. There is not much more we can do, is there?
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    Default Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    You still think the Russians are noble peacekeepers? Are they still trying to protect Russian citizens (you know, the one's who got the citizenship from the Russians)?

    You know, I'm surprised you still won't admit that Russia is doing this for no one but themselves. I'm glad Georgia is trying to push the Russians out of their land.
    You know, there is another country that invaded a country far away that had no citizens of the first country, saying this other country had weapons of mass destruction. Turned out that was a blatant lie but that country is still occupying the other country and now it thinks it can complain about Russia doing a counter attack after Georgia shelled (that means shot at and likely killed, just to make that clear) russian citizens in a disputed province, keep in mind those people accepted the russian citizenship, unless you can find me a source saying they were forced to take it at gunpoint.

    I do not really care what alignment you have but if you break a ceasefire, you're just asking for trouble and Georgia gets that trouble now. It's just too bad that there may be georgians/ossetians who did not want any of this but get fired at anyway, though my usual advice for them is get the hell out of there and come back when it's over.


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