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    Oh? Who? Where? How? Most of all who?
    Ahmed Aboutaleb for instance. Ahmed who? Yeah right. This guy had excellent ideas long before Fortuyn or Wilders ran away with the issues. Now Aboutaleb is under attack for having two passports (Moroccan and Dutch) whilst being Undersecretary of Social Affairs and Employment. He should get all the support he needs. Instead we are spending all our time discussing the non-issues introduced by your great peroxide leader. It's sickening.
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    Ahmed Aboutaleb for instance. Ahmed who? Yeah right. This guy had excellent ideas long before Fortuyn or Wilders ran away with the issues. Now Aboutaleb is under attack for having two passports (Moroccan and Dutch) whilst being Undersecretary of Social Affairs and Employment. He should get all the support he needs. Instead we are spending all our time discussing the non-issues introduced by your great peroxide leader. It's sickening.
    If you have two nationalities you can't be in the dutch parlement what's so hard about it? You say why not but he can easily give up his marrocan identity if he cares that much, but riding the waves is just that much easier. Maybe it means nothing to you but it means something to him, he would rather change the rules here then give up that little piece of him that you find so very very neglectable. So why do you? Ahmed is a great guy I agree (even know him personally) but being a non-caucasian just isn't enough.
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    If you have two nationalities you can't be in the dutch parlement what's so hard about it?
    QED
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    Oh but we are so very strict about it, it applies for business, Remkes even had to give up his membership of the jenever-society so that there can be no doubt, but Aboutaleb can keep his foreign nationality? Maybe it's just me but isn't that a little inconsistant?

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    The funniest thing is that when I said there are smart, authentic immigrant voices, you asked "Oh? Who? Where? How? Most of all who?"

    Now it turns out you personally know Ahmed and you think he's a 'great guy'.

    So why did you have to ask me?
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    The funniest thing is that when I said there are smart, authentic immigrant voices, you asked "Oh? Who? Where? How? Most of all who?"

    Now it turns out you personally know Ahmed and you think he's a 'great guy'.

    So why did you have to ask me?
    Well you only have to look at Marmouch and the backing he recieves from your lot, I am not asking anything, can't get it anyway but you need a miracle I need patience. I think the moderate muslims here are trying, and I don't think you are helping.

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    I think the moderate muslims here are trying, and I don't think you are helping.
    We put the best of them in government positions, and you call it 'unhelpful'? Man, you are confused.
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    i agree with Frag, a nation should not accept divided loyalties from its politicians, particularly not those occupying cabinet posts.

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