MTW-Redux Beta Released!

[Axalon]

Hi again guys,

Tony: I have no short answer for this “Moorish bug”, so I give you the solution for it first and then I have some further remarks afterwards. This solution aint pretty, but it works 8 out 10 times or so. It is imperative that you follow these instructions exactly in order get things going in the game:


Solution for “Moorish Bug” in redux:

1. Start up a new Redux SPC as Moors. (Whatever difficulty)
2. Go to Morocco, move your “Moorish Warriors”-unit to Algeria.
3. Go to Tunisia, move all existing units (including ruler) to Cyrenacia.
4. Go to Egypt, move one “Moorish Infantry” unit to Cyrenacia.
5. No more moves, with any unit. Don’t move anything else.
6. Build stuff and commission troops or change taxes at your own discretion.
7. End turn... Let the game do its stuff and wait for the first news of rebellion within the empire (let those rebels and peasants have their fun). AD 701 arrives and you can play the game as much as you want from now on. Make save of AD 701 just to be safe.

- If the game for some reason still freezes, “alt-ctrl-del” and shut down MTW. Do step 1-7 all over again.


This “Moorish opening” is of course not what or you or anyone else wants but it works. However, once you make to AD 701 you should be able to play redux anyway you like (and you have some 559 turns to correct the disasters of the Moorish opening).

The Moors have bugged on me before and it extremely unfortunate that the Redux 1.0 Moorish campaign start is somehow still configured in such way that game-program may freeze on the very first turn. I thought I solved this problem long time ago, your findings clearly shows that I was all wrong here. Now, I suspect that this bug might be connected to multiple rebellions events in a single turn and this sometimes makes the game-program to freak out and not load related audio-files properly (the rebel screams). Hence the game freezes. That’s a least what I think, based on previous experience. This is almost certainly not a redux exclusive bug and it has happened to me in similar forms many times, even in the original game. See “known bugs” in the “redux read me” (entry no:6), that’s the ones we are talking about here. What is really bad in this case, is the fact that you don’t got any such old saves to rely on and thus you are stuck with the weird manoeuvres of the “Moorish opening” to be able play game properly. MTW is a fairly stable game but not much more than that.

There might be other ways to halter this “Moorish Bug” other than doing a “Moorish opening”. If you are up to it, experiment some and try to keep your Moorish subjects as happy as possible and target some provinces high taxes and you might be able start your campaign in another way. Ironically, it is very much in line with the Moorish campaign description, you will have to leave some provinces in order to save others. Otherwise do the 7 steps listed above and take it from there. Hopefully your troubles end here and can you start playing the game instead.

(As far I can tell, your redux-install is probably in good health and you’re GFX-card dont seem to have a problem with redux either),



Tyberius: sorry for being a bit minimalistic on ya earlier on. Glad to hear you like my stuff. Regarding the “lending part” then, sure man, just give me the proper credits for my work and I will have no problem lending some to you. What are your plans or is it some sort of secret?


Axel: happy that you like redux man, but why the big wait (for your drives)? If your PC are up and running, why dont take chance and install redux now? Hell, it might even work, you never know until you tried. As I said earlier, I have a GFX-card, and it aint that old, that actually runs redux but wont go anywhere near original MTW-campaigns! Try it. If it don’t work, then by all means wait or try some other drives. ...It might...it might...



REDUX BUG-HUNT DECLARED:
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With Tonys discovery the box of big bad bugs has been opened for sure and it is only fitting that a proper bug-hunt is declared. So, if you stumble upon something suspicious, weird and bug like in redux and it is not already charted in redux “known bugs”, then posting it here would probably be good idea. All help here will be much appreciated, since my bug-slayer-skills will only go so far. I will see what I can do to counter or fix it, and if I can’t then perhaps someone else can step in. After all, there are some really serious MTW-specialists and such around here at the .Org... The best!

- Cheers