You want to expand NATO to provide a bulwark against Russia, which is mobilizing because of NATO expansion...
Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia
You want to expand NATO to provide a bulwark against Russia, which is mobilizing because of NATO expansion...
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Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia
Oh, if Russia doesn't like it, I guess we should disband NATO. If some of Eastern Europe would volounteer to join with Russia that might make them even happier.
The point isn't to placate Russia or anyone else. Russia is the biggest non-NATO power in the area, and increasing the effectiveness of NATO is not in itself a hostile act.
Getting the Ukraine on side is probably more important than Georgia, although Georgia has oil pipelines that need protecting.
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Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia
I don't remember saying disband NATO. My initial post was a compilation of preceding posts. I was trying to point out circular logic.
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Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia
You're right - these past few days are a perfect example of why NATO is no longer needed...Originally Posted by CrossLOPER
Why did Georgia want to be part of NATO? Because it felt threatened by Russian aggression. So, Gerogia engaged in talks with a partner that could defend it but also respect it's territory - NATO. Then Russia attacked - seemingly in the hopes that it would convince Georgia that it doesn't need a defensive partner? I think that this was a desperate Russia trying to spank its former progeny in retaliation, knowing full well that they are lost to them forever.
What is the variable that won't go away? Russian contempt for the sovereignty of formerly Soviet states.
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Re: Heavy Fighting in South Ossetia
russia is stepping on our windpipe with its energy politics, i want the baku-tbilisi pipeline firmly within our sphere of influence to reduce the pressure of that oppressive boot.
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