The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

uh...

...isn't Caius Dead?

Edit: I thought so... read N2, Caisu was murdered.

[naut]

Big FoS on you Husar. Dirty, dirty WIFOM.

[Husar]

Ouch. I read over the list of players thinking "he is dead, he is dead...." etc but forgot Caius.
Well yeah, there's a list of alive players somewhere on page x but the first page is easier to find.

Anyway,

Unvote: Caius
Vote: Proletariat

well, she didn't post a lot either, 5 posts only.

[Ferret]

Yeah with all these King reveals, Holmganging and Loki palava it would be very easy for a Jotun to lay low.

[woad&fangs]

Loki's new argument seems too well thought out. Sorry, but it makes me think he's been in contact with a Jotun.

fos: glyphz
vote: abstain

[Husar]

Loki's new argument seems too well thought out. Sorry, but it makes me think he's been in contact with a Jotun.

fos: glyphz
vote: abstain

Well, why don't you vote for him then?

On a related note, if he has been in contact with a Jotun, what does everyone think of the theory that this Jotun was pkev and that glyphz is now sacrificed to give Pkev a seemingly waterproof alibi? If glyphz has already joined the Jotun he would still win in the end if Pkev gets through without any suspicion. The way Pkev drives for his lynch at all costs, I find it weird.

Something smells here and it's not me.

[Privateerkev]

Yes Loki is being so helpful by posting a very incomplete investigation result on me. Sorry guy, you are a good roleplayer, and I would love to share a beer with you after the game, but you have to go.

We will never ever be able to trust you. We have no way of knowing that your showing us your whole role PM. And now your deliberately throwing suspicion on a player you know to be innocent.

That is very "un-townie" like.

*edit*
And I am tired of getting the whole blame for the Tratorix/Motep fiasco.

Before they revealed, they were simply guys who were absent from the board when the Jotun seemed to be missing night actions. Sigurd even commented that he wasn't receiving night PM's. In any other game, those two would have been perfectly reasonable D2 suspects. I was the first to put my vote on Tratorix but I was hardly the only one. When he revealed, I put it on Motep because he was the next person on my suspicious list. When he revealed, I took it off him.

So, do not blame me for the roles they happened to have. In any other game those two would have looked suspicious. If you want to stay alive in these games, don't miss whole day/night phases...

[glyphz]

I, Loki, feels he has shown enough evidence to support his case. Consider this my game of trust. The only thing I plan on doing is accommodate questions about it. Now let’s see:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

AMasking your evidence is severely anti-town play. In fact, you have not revealed anything about your role PM that I have seen. Can you confirm if you are allowed to change sides, as Loki was allowed to in the first game?

BWhich ability? Did I miss something?

CIf you are truly Aesir your Holmgang would be awesome, and if you were pro-town you would have concerns over using this every round. This makes me suspect you don't want to take the pro-town route.

A)I have posted my RolePM, dear ghost, and these lines came with it, no changes made.

In the previous game you were given the task of making chaos. In this game you dare nothing other than keeping to the good side as you suspect there is another Æsir amongst the king’s men. Someone you fear.
You will aid the humans in their search for Jotun and help dispose of them.

B)From the same post, but I will be a litle more considerate and reveal a few more...

Loki and other Æsir have no need for sleep and you find yourself wandering around the camp at night. E*ery ni**t**********ble ****w*t*h*anoth*****layer*and
**ee i***hey*h****a n****tly*act****y. If***ey*****and are**ct**e that******, you**ill s********leave*t*****pl*** of **st*an*********eturn.
Pm me the name of the player you wi-------------- every night.

C)I am awesome! *strikes a pose* Hurrah!
Awesome even if I lose my nightly ability. Being revealed though does limit my capabilities and options. I feel exposed ...and a big target,as the Jotun do need me dead to win. Being me, does not make things any easier. One of my last options is to offer my Holmgang services, throw me into the circle with whoever the majority may suspect, and no doubt you will be entertained, win or lose... Not my kind of terms, but I, as so many of coin my situation , am “on-the-fence”.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Loki's new argument seems too well thought out. Sorry, but it makes me think he's been in contact with a Jotun.

If you read my ‘story’ post, in my 3 nightly activities: it does not look like I’ve observed any roles that they target. Meaning I have no bargaining chip to let them join me. In my RolePM, it shows that, yours truly, do not know anyone else’s role from the start. However, I have gained something against them.

Yes Loki is being so helpful by posting a very incomplete investigation result on me. Sorry guy, you are a good roleplayer, and I would love to share a beer with you after the game, but you have to go.

We will never ever be able to trust you. We have no way of knowing that your showing us your whole role PM. And now your deliberately throwing suspicion on a player you know to be innocent.

That is very "un-townie" like.

*edit*
And I am tired of getting the whole blame for the Tratorix/Motep fiasco.

Before they revealed, they were simply guys who were absent from the board when the Jotun seemed to be missing night actions. Sigurd even commented that he wasn't receiving night PM's. In any other game, those two would have been perfectly reasonable D2 suspects. I was the first to put my vote on Tratorix but I was hardly the only one. When he revealed, I put it on Motep because he was the next person on my suspicious list. When he revealed, I took it off him.

So, do not blame me for the roles they happened to have. In any other game those two would have looked suspicious. If you want to stay alive in these games, don't miss whole day/night phases...

Despite being pro-townie, I am allowed to hold grudges. You know that I’d rather see Heimdall be covered with the plague, Ha! ...and Odin find his throne in Hel. The mortal, PKev, has crossed me. That, I will not pass easily, and will relish any opportunity to bother him.
I am thoughtful enough, however, to partly mask my observation of him, to make sure the vermin not know exact role (townie, warrior or king), and the townies waste a lynch on a mortal. I only revealed that you are asleep, thus likely innocent.
Honestly, I do not put all blame on you for the Tratorix fiascco, it is equal among those who put a vote on him, heh,for such a lame cause, but I enjoy putting the spotlight on you.
*grin* That I do not deny.

[Privateerkev]

Despite being pro-townie, I am allowed to hold grudges. You know that I’d rather see Heimdall be covered with the plague, Ha! ...and Odin find his throne in Hel. The mortal, PKev, has crossed me. That, I will not pass easily, and will relish any opportunity to bother him.
I am thoughtful enough, however, to partly mask my observation of him, to make sure the vermin not know exact role (townie, warrior or king), and the townies waste a lynch on a mortal. I only revealed that you are asleep, thus likely innocent.
Honestly, I do not put all blame on you for the Tratorix fiascco, it is equal among those who put a vote on him, heh,for such a lame cause, but I enjoy putting the spotlight on you.
*grin* That I do not deny.

I don't believe for one moment that you have been entirely forthcoming. We will never be able to trust you. So therefore we simply can not take the chance at letting you live. I will enjoy watching you swing from the gallows Loki.

Once your dead, you can do little other than rant and I can simply put you on "ignore."

[glyphz]

Alas. The hour nears...

I am most disappointed to leave the mortal realm in an embarrasing state. The inns have closed their doors to me, and the women avoid me. The mortals, which I was sworn to support, have turned against me, and my pleas of innocence have mostly fallen onto deaf ears. Even when they're aware that killing me generally hurts their chances (*refering to victory conditions*). They treat me as a scapegoat, as they have unearthed close to nothing about the true villains.
No doubt the Jotun vermin smile behind their guises. Even now... Yes. Even now, I can sense their gaze full of malice among those who look at me with contempt. (weak, perhaps, but definitely present)
I leave this last warning (regardless of how you treat this warning), even now as I prepare for my fate... and my plans in the the next realm. (Ragnarok)

[Sigurd]

------------ Voting closed -------------

[Sigurd]

Round 3 Completion



The morning following ActionHero’s death, the Rus mourned another man from their entourage and they all believed it was someone from the Swedish camp that had killed him. But that someone would poison a man in his sleep was beyond their comprehension. If you would kill someone, you would at least do it through battle. Poisoning was a weakling’s murder. The Swedes protested when the Rus confronted them about this. There were harsh words passed between the two groups and it nearly went as far as an open conflict with arms.
The laws speaker forced himself in between the two groups and had a few burly Jomsvikings helping him. He finally was able to make some space between the groups and declared that this would have to be settled in the same manner as the other two murders. The groups would all vote democratically for candidates to serve as the scapegoat and satisfy the injustice that had befell the Rus.
One among them spoke; “I saw a man lurking around last nigh, and it was him!” The man called privateerkev pointed at another man. “I believe he might have done it”. The man he was pointing at, smiled a betrayed smile and stepped forward. “It is true what this man speaks, I was indeed out and about last night and saw a few things that might be of interest to you.

“Liar!!” said the first. “You admit to sneaking around. Why would you do that unless you had malicious intent? I say we make this man the atonement”.

Most of the men in the gathering agreed. It was only a few of the others that wanted another candidate. The first challenged: “All those in favour raise their hand”. 12 men raised their hand. “All those that want another candidate, raise their hand”. Only six raised theirs. “It seems dear law speaker that we have found our candidate.
The law speaker asked the men of Jom to put the man in chains. “Let’s get this over with.
Do you have anything to say?” The now chained man looked at the crowd with mischievous eyes. “I came among thee mortals to help thee against a great threat. And this is how ye thank me? I shalt not suffer thy presence any longer”.
glyphz broke his chains as if it they were made of straw and threw them away. scottishranger was unfortunate and stood in the chains way. His face caved in from the blow and he suddenly found himself on the back of a horse in full gallop.

glyphz drew something with his finger in the air. Suddenly he disappeared leaving baffled Norse men looking at each other.

As glyphz entered his world, another being waited for him: “How did it fare, son?” glyphz made a grimace and put a hand to his brow. “The mortals are too suspicious and paranoid. I was not even heard”. The older man put a hand on glyphz’ shoulder: “Ah well, the mortals doth have some of our kind amongst them still. I might have made a mistake sending you. I am sorry son, thy reputation condemn thee still”.

Tally:

glyphz: 12 (Andres, Eliit, Fenring, GH, Ichigo, Kukri, LG, PK, Seamus, shlin, TinCow, Warmaster)

Andres: 2 (Motep, Sarathos)
GeneralHankerchief 1: (disco)
Quintus.J.Cicero: 1 (Gaius SC)
Prole: 1 (Husar)

Abstained : 1 (w&f)
Did not vote : 11 (Craterus, CR, El D, glyphz, Kage, Omanes, pever, Prole, QJC, scottishranger, Tevash)


Killed: (3)

Twilightblade (R1)
Caius (R2)
Rythmic (R3)

Killed by Holmgang: (2)

makaikhaan (R1)
FactionHeir (R2)

Lynched: (3)

CountArach (R1)
Tratorix (R2)
glyphz (R3)

WoG: (1)

scottishranger (R3)

Living: (27)

Andres
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
discovery1
El Diablo
Eliit Tuhkur
Fenring
Gaius Scribonius Curio
GeneralHankerchief
Husar
Ichigo
Kagemusha
Kukrikhan
LittleGrizzly
Motep
Omanes Alexandrapolites
pevergreen
Privateerkev
Proletariat
Quintus.J.Cicero
Sarathos
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
TevashSzat
TinCow
Warmaster Horus
woad&fangs

Challenge away and remember to send the PMs. Deadline at 2000 GMT Friday the 15th of August

[Ferret]

Challenge:GH

[GeneralHankerchief]

Challenge:GH

Sorry pal, I'm resting.

[woad&fangs]

GH fought a Holmgang last turn so he can't fight again tonight.

If there is someone the town wants to see in a Holmgang then tell me so I can challenge them.

[Ferret]

oh yeah, dag nab it.

I think I'm very guilty looking so you should challenge me

[FactionHeir]

I told you guys not to lynch glyphz

Whos ActionHero btw?

[Motep]

So kind were we to Loki. I feel so happy.

[Sigurd]

Whos ActionHero btw?

Sorry about that... It was a promise to those in the chat.
Oh, its YOU!!

[Husar]

Sorry about that... It was a promise to those in the chat.
Oh, its YOU!!

Sigurd always delivers.

[pevergreen]

Challange: KukriKhan

@ CA: Townie PM's have no runic inscription.

[discovery1]

Booo to killing loki so soon. Oh well.

Edit:
And thanks Sigurd.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Do you have anything to say?” The now chained man looked at the crowd with mischievous eyes. “I came among thee mortals to help thee against a great threat. And this is how ye thank me? I shalt not suffer thy presence any longer”.
glyphz broke his chains as if it they were made of straw and threw them away. scottishranger was unfortunate and stood in the chains way. His face caved in from the blow and he suddenly found himself on the back of a horse in full gallop.

glyphz drew something with his finger in the air. Suddenly he disappeared leaving baffled Norse men looking at each other.

As glyphz entered his world, another being waited for him: “How did it fare, son?” glyphz made a grimace and put a hand to his brow. “The mortals are too suspicious and paranoid. I was not even heard”. The older man put a hand on glyphz’ shoulder: “Ah well, the mortals doth have some of our kind amongst them still. I might have made a mistake sending you. I am sorry son, thy reputation condemn thee still”.
[/U]

Seems like I am proven right, and Glyphz was innocent. AFAIK, Loki was the son of Odin. There are some Gods still around (Heimdall and Thor), so we aren't totally cooked, but Gah! again to prejudice.

Self-destruction imminent!

[Tratorix]

Seems like I am proven right, and Glyphz was innocent. AFAIK, Loki was the son of Odin. There are some Gods still around (Heimdall and Thor), so we aren't totally cooked, but Gah! again to prejudice.

Self-destruction imminent!

Well, he probably could have picked a better way of showing it than saying he was neutral and could side with either group.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I don't deny that, but see my massive list of reasons on his behalf.

And more importantly, my rant against the hugeness of the bandwagon. Only half the number of people who voted for Glyphz voted for anybody else, allowing the Jotun to hide with impunity.

Next time there is a major lynch candidate, the voting still needs to be more spread out.

[CountArach]

Spreading out the voting is not a good idea, as was shown in Capo where the Mafia was able to do last-minute bandwagons on other people.

[Proletariat]

Not much to say about this last round. Glyph acted foolishly, completely apropo of his role, and now he's been lynched, which was really the only sound choice for the town. I've been a little busy, and have some company over this weekend, but I'll post when I can.

[KukriKhan]

I'm more concerned with the non-voters:

Did not vote : 11 (Craterus, CR, El D, glyphz, Kage, Omanes, pever, Prole, QJC, scottishranger, Tevash)

Why? OK, scratch glyphz (lynched) & scottishranger (WoG'd); that's still 9 players sitting on their hands. Jotuns, Kings & Warriors waiting for the peasantry to self-destruct?

Please explain yourselves. Major FoS on them all until then. Sitting out gives the town even less info to anlayze, and thus weakens it further. No wonder we're killing pro-town roles in desperation.

I'm beginning to smell "end-of-the-game", "SURPRISE!" reveals, leading to a major battle between Jotun and King as a strategy. Good luck with that, if all the Gods and peasants are dead. Jotun ftw.

--edit--

@ CA: Townie PM's have no runic inscription.

Factually incorrect, sir. At least one Townie PM did have a runic inscription. What is your source for this misinformation?

[FactionHeir]

Sorry about that... It was a promise to those in the chat.
Oh, its YOU!!

Hmmm any explanation? I don't usually visit the chat

[Csargo]

I'm more concerned with the non-voters:



Why? OK, scratch glyphz (lynched) & scottishranger (WoG'd); that's still 9 players sitting on their hands. Jotuns, Kings & Warriors waiting for the peasantry to self-destruct?

Please explain yourselves. Major FoS on them all until then. Sitting out gives the town even less info to anlayze, and thus weakens it further. No wonder we're killing pro-town roles in desperation.

Omanes hasn't been online since the 12th

And FH maybe you should start