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    This thread wasn't about race in the first place, and it shouldn't be, okay guys?

    I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.
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    Where are those who normally post about Aztlan and the threat to America from the hispanics taking over and making you speak Spanish ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    This thread wasn't about race in the first place, and it shouldn't be, okay guys?

    I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.
    I don't see English being replaced as the "official language" in the US anytime soon. When dealing with government agencies, banks, public schools, most businesses etc... those that control/administrate these institutions speak English. The system "works", so where would be the incentive for rapid change? Language does evolve over time, and different cultures can and will add to the US version of English as they have in the past, but the process is a slow one.

    The "classical" Spanish I learned in high-school is very different from the Hispanic "street language" spoken in the prisons I have worked. So when the "experts" in this article allude to Spanish or Hispanic language I wonder which particular dialect they are referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    So when the "experts" in this article allude to Spanish or Hispanic language I wonder which particular dialect they are referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.
    I don't think it's so much a willingness to do away with English, as much as it is a confidence that English doesn't really need protecting. English remains the prime language of literature, education, business, commerce, broadcast, etc. in this country after all these years and all these influences from other cultures, in spite of never being made the nation's official language and never having a government ministry established to regulate it. Similarly to other posters, I've noticed that while many from the first generation of immigrants fail to learn English, it's rare for those of subsequent generations to do the same, and children are often the most available and reliable interpreters when dealing with their parents. English is the language of opportunity, and most people want more access to money, entertainment, education, or whatnot, so there's a strong motivation to learn English in this country without official endorsement. The fact that the rest of the world is busy learning English as a second language just offers one more reason to trust the language to survive on its own.

    It also helps that it has a tradition as a very adaptable language, from its fusion of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, and French back in the day to all the influence of languages from around the world now. In the cases where Spanish has a word for something English does not or has a cooler word for something English does, English simply adopts the Spanish term and carries on. I think a more highly regulated language would likely resist such adoption and prove less survivable in the long run.

    Also, there's no reason to think that English is inherently superior to Spanish, nor that culture and ethnicity are necessarily tied to language. At least ideally, America is all about freedom and competition, and if the Spanish language were to prove itself superior to English, well then it has both the opportunity to do so, and also the requirement to win us all over to its use. Short of that, there's also nothing wrong with a country having more than one principal language, and the US population could afford to be more multilingual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    This thread wasn't about race in the first place, and it shouldn't be, okay guys?

    I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.
    Because we know it really wont go away. We are seeing these peoples cultrual habits change before our very eyes
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