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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    The Ottomans had been using battleships by the early 1600's. Despite being pretty small (considering their position) they usually kept their navy in the right era, at least.
    During the 1700's the Russians were probably the greatest users of oar-powered ships, since Peter the Great built several fleets of them in his wars with the Ottomans and Swedes.
    The North African corsairs, nominally Ottomans, still preferred galleys for their manoeuvrability and speed that was quite sufficient to conduct raids and piracy. One of the few operators of rowed warships to actually use galley slaves.


    I know the Russians were using galleys at the very least up until the Napoleonic Wars. Not in major combat roles, but I can certainly see where they could be quite useful in fairly calm waters.
    Quit the opposite, the Baltic is quite rough. The reason galleys remained in service there for far longer then most places was that it was quite narrow. With little sea room to tack you could spend weeks at anchor waiting for the wind to blow your way. Also, oars allowed you to get to shelter before a storm hit, whereas a sailing-vessel might not be so lucky and had to ride the storm out. The seas being narrow meant you would risk being blown onto shore.
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    The Ottomans had been using battleships by the early 1600's.
    Hmm, it seems I was incorrectly thinking Lepanto was later than it actually was
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmar Bijlsma View Post
    The North African corsairs, nominally Ottomans, still preferred galleys for their manoeuvrability and speed that was quite sufficient to conduct raids and piracy. One of the few operators of rowed warships to actually use galley slaves.
    Aye, but pirate ships aren't the same as warships. Pirates want loot and prisoners. A warship is just out there to kill things.

    Quit the opposite, the Baltic is quite rough. The reason galleys remained in service there for far longer then most places was that it was quite narrow. With little sea room to tack you could spend weeks at anchor waiting for the wind to blow your way. Also, oars allowed you to get to shelter before a storm hit, whereas a sailing-vessel might not be so lucky and had to ride the storm out. The seas being narrow meant you would risk being blown onto shore.
    If I remember correctly, the Baltic is also possessed of a rather large number of fjords and so forth, with lots of swamps and shallow-water areas which would be quite fine for a galley to operate in, while being exceedingly difficult (or impossible) for a conventional warship to follow in.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoom View Post
    Hmm, it seems I was incorrectly thinking Lepanto was later than it actually was
    Wikipedia says 1571 :p
    And goes on to state that the first Ottoman battleship was purchased in 1624.
    Tallyho lads, rape the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers!

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