True - but you are one of the few people I know not to be Jotun. We need to put more thought into this.
CR
True - but you are one of the few people I know not to be Jotun. We need to put more thought into this.
CR
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The main proof i can offer is the people i have cleared and the people i haven't.
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Sigurd could have supplied Grizz a Tyr PM. Maybe he's the Jotun Detective.
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In this current situation, it would be strange not to think this possibility, either a couple of Jotun have created decent Role PMs, or were given one by GameMaster Sigurd. But before all that we should check first if it's a townie victory after Sarathos is lynched.
If it does not end then...
R6 - GaiusSC and Kukri were attacked (2 Jotun at least)
Since then, CrazedRabbit (lynched), Warmaster Horus (Holmgang) and Fenring (drank spit - eew) were killed.
WHorus and Fenring are innocent, and CR was the young speaker (likely not Jotun, right?).
If all 3 are innocnet, and everybody else has claimed innocent by revealing, would this indeed imply a Jotun with a fake PM?
1 Jotun if a fake god, 2 if a fake King-Champion duo, 3 if.... awww Hel no...
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Says the man franticly claiming to me as I read this thread that he is town.
"OMG pev im town! Sif they lynch me! OMG im *role*"
"But Sarathos, you said you were *role*"
"Yeah i am. IM TOWN *assorted ramblings*
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Well, a couple of things are clear (but only a couple):
1) there were darn few plain vanilla townie roles
2) One, and maybe 2 Jotun have successfully infiltrated "the network".
It's too bad the puzzle/code thing didn't work out as helpful. Maybe we'll see otherwise in the endgame writeup.
Good luck town. Really. It sounds like the network should re-look at the string of 'vouches' to find the bad guy(s).
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Gaius' reveal has a lot of errors in it and if its a quote, then why is there only /font but no font? And why are all the tags in small letter rather than caps, which Sigurd actually uses...
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Well then, I guess you've got at least one player up for the holmgang tonight.
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Eh, what?
Oh and a question: Was anyone promoted to Champion before GH and perhaps told him about it? Or when GH said he was a new swedish champion, was he perhaps not referring to Motep as his king?
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If Gaius' reveal looks scummy, like FH seems to think, then he should be in there, no?
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Funnily enough, the people that Gaius said would be protected by Thor (receive a hammer amulet) have been consistently protected. Is that pure luck? Somehow, I don't think so.
The town really needs to stop pointing fingers, I think the game will end after Sarathos and can't really see where the network has gone wrong. How about we all reassess after the lynch write up?
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He could just not attack or intentionally fail?
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No, people have consistently got protection pm's when he said he was going to protect them, either a lot of people are lieing about thor protecting them (which i don't see a good reason for) or gaius has some kind of super jotun role where he has perfect cover as a fake god which includes fake protections (to the point where craterus survived a broken neck a night or 2 back)
In other words im 100% sure gaius is thor...
I do think there is another Jotun after sarathos, various people have come to the conclusion that there must be 2 Jotun left (because of amount of kills) and the fact is thor blocked sarathos last night, he is a jotun who was unable to kill but there was a kill last night, thus there must be a jotun or at least a sk after sarathos..
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Round 7 Conclusion
Not many men where left at Althing and this morning was especially bad for the Rus. Another man had been found dead and he was the last of the Rus contingent.
The Danes had been all killed a few nights back and the remainder of the Kingdoms consisted of men from Sweden, Norway and Jomsborg; except one. Sarathos was the last man from Jorvik and he was singled out as the last possible suspect. The rest of the men had confidence in the innocence of each other. They voted by putting their right hand to the square and it was unanimous. Only Sarathos abstained and laughed at them: “You think you can kill me? Well think again fools”. Before their eyes he revealed his true nature. The battle hardened Jorvik warrior transformed into a hideous beast, easily 8 feet if not more. “MUHAHAHHAAHAAA, Come and take me puny little mortals, I have killed your kind since the day you first appeared here in Midgard. Heh! I have even off’d a few of those you worship. The terrible smile of white fangs appeared as Sarathos contemplated on whom to crush first. He picked up a boulder that easily weighed nearly as much as a longship and threw it at a group of men who a few moments stood frozen with fear looking at this dark shape that blotted out the sun falling towards them. Suddenly it exploded and showered them with pebbles.
“Enough!!!” the booming and unnatural sound came from behind them and as they turned, they saw a tall and seemingly very strong being with red flowing hair. His countenance was beautiful but at the same time intimidating. Power radiated from him and they knew that this was an Æsir. A battle hammer retuned to his massive hand and he continued: “I have come to remove thee, Rungne. This is Midgard and thou belongst not here. Take thy hideous face into thy own kingdom and let these be. They have no quarrel with thee, but I might if thou doth not flee.” The large Jotun looked a little surprised. “So Thor, you have come to save these insignificant mortals? What makes you think you can stop me?” The remainder of the men slowly backed away from the path between Thor and Rungne. “I brought Mjølnir giant, my long time friend will see thee to Hel”. Sarathos moved unnaturally fast and the mortal eyes of the men around could just see a blur. Sarathos grabbed the stone with the runes and threw it at Thor. The power was so great behind that throw that Thor barely got his hammer up in defence. The boom that came from the hammer splitting the stone was so great that several of the men watching the standoff lost their hearing temporarily. Blood gushed from their ears and they fell to their knees. One of the pieces hit Thor’s forehead and he stumbled. He was obviously shaken and went down on one knee. Sarathos smiled his evil grin and moved slowly over to where Thor sat shaking his head. The stone was enhanced by magic and it would have killed an Æsir had it hit with full force. Sarathos picked up one of the pieces and was about to knock Thor over the head with it … when suddenly he felt a shearing pain in his torso. He looked down onto a blade that had pierced his heart. “What?” He turned and faltered. The being standing there behind him looked at Sarathos with stern eyes. “I am Tyr, I could not behold the killing of Thor, the greatest of Æsir warriors. Now begone Rungne. We would not have thee here any longer.” Rungne’s eyes widened: “Ty… ?” The Jotun slumped to the ground and was still.
The new revealed being walked over to Thor and knelt beside him. “Come on old friend, thou doth need some rest”.
Sarathos found himself in another place and the air smelt nice. The ground was littered with flowers and he looked around. A woman’s voice was heard behind him: “Champion! I am glad to see thee”. Sarathos turned and looked into a pair of beautiful eyes. “Come, let me take thee home”.
Tally
Sarathos: 9 (Craterus, disco, Gaius, Husar, Ichigo, LG, Motep, PK, TinCow)
Not voting : 1 (Sarathos)
Killed: (8)
Twilightblade (R1)
Caius (R2)
Rythmic (R3)
Eliit Tuhkur (R4)
shlin28 (R4)
Proletariat (R5)
Kukrikhan (R6)
Fenring (R7)
Killed in Holmgang: (6)
makaikhaan (R1)
FactionHeir (R2)
Andres (R3)
woad&fangs (R4)
GeneralHankerchief (R5)
Warmaster Horus (R6)
Lynched: (7)
CountArach (R1)
Tratorix (R2)
glyphz (R3)
El Diablo (R4)
Seamus (R5)
Crazed Rabbit (R6)
Sarathos (R7)
WoG: (6)
scottishranger (R3)
TevashSzat (R4)
Quintus.J.Cicero (R4)
Kagemusha (R5)
pevergreen (R5)
Omanes (R5)
Living: (9)
Craterus
discovery1
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Husar
Ichigo
LittleGrizzly
Motep
Privateerkev
TinCow
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Hmm... Now what?
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
So either we have to wait until nothing happens during the night, or I have no idea what to do.
This does clear a few roles though, basically those of Thor and Tyr. also note the picture, seems to mean that the Jotun are gone.
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So LG is telling the truth - good.
And Jotun can go to Valhalla? Or the meadow with the maiden, at least.
So only those who have been attacked or are claiming to be Thor or Tyr can be trusted, really.
I think even having a person vouch for you doesn't mean you're innocent. Kings could probably be assured of being innocent, but I would not be sure of their men.
So we have to do now what the townie network is so terrible at; rely not on behind the scenes connections but on analysis of players to determine the two most suspicious people and pit them together in Holmgang.
Let Tyr watch and see if they are Jotun.
The fact that the townie network had a lot of communication behind closed doors isn't going to help us, since its obvious the Jotun is someone that was vouched for.
That's what you do.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Challenge: Privateerkev
Let's see what happens.
Way to talk that one over.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
There's nothing to talk over. It was either Motep or PK. There are arguments both ways, but if there are Jotun still alive this strikes me as a situation which is very similar to Taormina, in which PK completely fooled me the entire game. It could be Motep, but my money is on PK so that is my decision.
But only the echo chamber of the townie network can read what you guys wrote in your QT forum.
But anyways, let it be PK and Tincow.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
I've seen far more evidence suggesting that PK is innocent than Motep, he even had Jesus find him innocent...
Mmm, no.
I found that PK had a necklace as he said, with XY on it.
I found that Sarathos had info on the Jotun, but Sarathos denied it when I questioned him, and that was how I knew he was guilty.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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