The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't act so innocent. PK outed Loki and you guys led the charge on his lynching.

[Warmaster Horus]

Hey, Loki was a fair lynch. There were other stuff though. Not letting CR have a chance at revealing his identity, though...

I'll admit, I jumped on more than one bandwagon, but complaining about Loki's lynching is wrong. He's a trickster, and the way Glyphz acted we couldn't know what was going to happen.

[Craterus]

This just sums up the problems with the town. Such rubbish.

Firstly, the dispute is between Norway and Denmark. And the Danes are all dead, the last write up even said so but the network knew a long time ago.

Also, I asked for only one rule when we started the network. My my, how such things are forgotten. This was all so unnecessary.

And by the by, the network was good. It worked. Might be worth looking at who we didn't lynch rather than who we did. Because we're at the end game with 2 gods and 4 lords. Not doing so badly, eh?

I'm sure I don't need to remind you but prior to the original four participants talking (that is: myself, PK, TinCow and Ichigo), the town had lynched a God and a Lord. So a tiny part of me thinks that it might have been necessary to get some mutual awareness between the powertown roles so that they would stop lynching each other.

Furthermore, you'll notice the stupidity of tonight's Holmgang considering these were the starting four, way before the cries of 'infiltration!'.

[seireikhaan]

A few things still bugging me: WHY KILL FENRING? Why was he killed? That still makes no logical sense, even for a new mafioso, and I'd be willing to bet that the mafioso had at least one experienced player on its team. If Fenring was indeed innocent, why would any half smart mafioso kill him?

The answer? They wouldn't.

However... A third party just might. The death of a prime lynch target at night would theoretically lead to one conclusion: That the town has some kind of vigelante, or hired killer. However, I somehow doubt that, because the dwarf has been killing all game long. Which brings me to a further point: Why would a Jotun disguise himself as a dwarf? A regular man, sure. But for a mighty Jotun to disguise himself as a dwarf, a tiny person, is frankly ridiculous by my judgement. It would be too disgraceful for a mighty Jotun to lower themself to such a standard, even if to accomplish their goal.

There has to be a third party at work here. A third party which might not have to worry about being lynched, a third party that feels extremely secure. And I think that third party has infiltrated the town network. Look amonst yourselves, through all the PMs and the quicktopic. Someone's playing you.

My suspects: TinCow and PrivateerKev.

PK, to be honest, you've been on my radar for a while now. Something has twigged my alarm radar, but I kept hit hidden for a while to try and make sure I didn't blow anything for a pro-town role, and to gather more info.

TC- Lets be honest, you're very, very good at it. I'm going to be honest- your behavior strikes me similar to your behavior as Hades, though you obviously didn't claim quite as powerful as a role. You're being out of your way to "help" the town cause. Bear in mind, you disclosed a quicktopic thread in that game once it had run its usefulness out, much like the quicktopic has now in this game.

If I had to pick a target for lynch next round, it would be TinCow.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, for the last time:

a) I challenged FH to Holmgang because, at the time, he was considered suspicious.

b) Are you truly comparing the death of a townie to that of a God?

[Csargo]

I am, he is not proven as a protown role.

[Crazed Rabbit]

My role knows more about history than any other mortal - so if my role thought the dwarf was a Jotun, then I'd put some weight in that.

CR

[Husar]

Concerning Pkev and TinCow, they both have a lord claiming them to be their champion, with TinCow I'd even say it is waterproof because that lord is my lord and Sigurd specifically named him.

And one thing that intrigues me is where Craterus got those 4 alive lords from? If I am counting correctly, there are only 3 left unless someone claimed a lord as his champion in which case it would be about time to tell us because that sort of thing is absolutely not waterproof at all kinda like, you know....

[glyphz]

With the game seemingly unfinished and the dwarf with the STD (Spit-Transmitted DEATH) still on the loose, the network's plan (using Holmgang, in conjunction with Tyr and Thor) sounds sensible, unless something better can be thought up

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Hey, Loki was a fair lynch. There were other stuff though. Not letting CR have a chance at revealing his identity, though...

I'll admit, I jumped on more than one bandwagon, but complaining about Loki's lynching is wrong. He's a trickster, and the way Glyphz acted we couldn't know what was going to happen.

I'm more into rooting out the Jotun. 'Cause looking back ...I agree that Loki was the best lynch target. Fair?
Just to clear something

The way I role-played, bluffing that Loki could choose sides, only looked like I was shooting my own foot. ( now that you know that Loki was supposed to be 100% pro-town ...whether you believe it or still don't)
The only reason I acted thus, was because Loki was revealed, and could already predict who'll be getting the most votes, anyway. I just decided to go out with a 'splash,' and not completely waste a good role.
Now if Loki was given a chance to work with the town, I'm sure you'd find him more cooperative and understanding.
Less confusing, cryptic? Yes.
Less 'loud'? A tad less arrogant (or 'annoying')?

Unlikely.
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(On the public thread at least :P)

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If Loki remained hidden, he'd still be dead anyway, judging from the way the network treated CR. Loki would balk at the possibility of revealing to another Aesir, as the role states. ("Someone you fear." ) I thought Heimdall, but no Heimdall here. It seems Loki has a good reason to fear somthing else... midgets that like to ruin good liquor
...and a date with the reaper

If he refuses to reveal to the network = lynch votes.
If he openly revealed he was Loki, alarms and suspicions would be raised ...eventually = lynch votes.
(too much dependence on MS I script, but that's a natural way of approaching MS II)
Loki is dead once publicly revealed. Period.

I'm not into bashing the 'network,' as now I can see how, if played well and not infiltrated, can assure a townie victory.
The only gripe that I see is tension with other townie roles, those kept in the dark and certain unique roles (Loki and CR's).
If you are innocent, and consider revealing to a network not in your best interest (playing style or any other reasons), the mafia is not the only guys you should end up fearing...

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[Csargo]

Don't act so innocent. PK outed Loki and you guys led the charge on his lynching.

Yes, and you Holmganged a townie because you were bored...