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    Berserker? Wow, I've never heard of anyone doing that. What does it do? Make them break formation, switch to swords, and fight to the last man or something? Do tell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenix3279 View Post
    Berserker? Wow, I've never heard of anyone doing that. What does it do? Make them break formation, switch to swords, and fight to the last man or something? Do tell...
    Hopefully the Spartans don't go berserk if you do as I have told. Hopefully. Because if you change the stat_mental to impetuous, the unit description will say that the certain unit will be prone to charging without orders (which by the way never happened to me), then maybe changing the stat_mental to berserker will make the unit go berserk. I'm hoping there is another trait that makes a unit go berserk. Just wait a little bit so I can check the vanilla RTW EDU berserker stats.

    Now about the morale. Disciplined means that a unit loses the morale slower and regains it faster. My theory is that Berserker units lose morale even slower and gain morale even faster. You could also try to change the morale to 999, but once again, I am not sure there can be such thing as three-digit morale. If 999 trick doesn't work, just use 99 or something a bit lower.

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    Here is the original vanilla RTW berserker stats:

    type barb berserker german
    dictionary barb_berserker_german ; Berserkers
    category infantry
    class light
    voice_type Heavy_1
    soldier barb_berserker, 12, 0, 1.5
    attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, frighten_foot, very_hardy, warcry
    formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 2, horde
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 19, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, axe, 25 ,0.87
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 2, 5, 0, flesh
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 2, -2, 3, 2
    stat_mental 16, berserker, untrained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 2, 930, 120, 100, 140, 930
    ownership germans

    Hmmm... So looks like changing the stat_mental to berserker will probably make spartans go berserk. Still its worth a try. Just be sure to make backups!

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    BTW, remember how the vanilla berserkers threw units around, much like the elephants? Well I just found in the EDU that "launching = attack may throw target men into the air". Simply adding berserker to stat_mental should not make the Spartans attack resemble that of a real berserk.

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    Alright! I'm off to see some berserker action now lol

    And to think, people said that Spartans didn't really fight like they did in the movie, 300
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenix3279 View Post
    Alright! I'm off to see some berserker action now lol

    And to think, people said that Spartans didn't really fight like they did in the movie, 300
    Did you actually like 300? I'm just asking for your opinion, because I thought that the movie was horrible, and yet every person I have met since the movie's release date said the movie was amazing.

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    They actually did worse then normal. It was kinda funny, they do that spinning attack animation, but wouldn't kill anyone. They held out pretty well, despite being surrounded, the captain dieing, and going out of berserk mode, they lasted till 30 men left before routing. #00 was good if you can turn your historian mode on and off at will. History wise, blah, stupid gory action flick, good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Did you actually like 300? I'm just asking for your opinion, because I thought that the movie was horrible, and yet every person I have met since the movie's release date said the movie was amazing.
    Did you even watch the previews? They give you a pretty good idea of what to expect. If you walked into that movie thinking it was going to be historically accurate, then it sounds like you were setting yourself up to hating that movie from the start. I liked it because I've never had so many wtf moments in one sitting. Regardless of reality, one has to admit the Spartans looked SO freakin' badass tossing Persians around like they were nothing. Just try to keep a more open mind if you ever watch it again.
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