Best/Favourite Missile Unit

[Aemilius Paulus]

Here is the EDU entry for Rhodian Slingers, the range is bolded and underlined


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type hellenistic missile rhodian slingers
dictionary hellenistic_missile_rhodian_slingers ; Rhodian Slingers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type General_1
soldier african_missile_african_iberian_rhodian_slingers, 30, 0, 0.85
mount_effect horse -2, chariot +2, elephant +1
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, can_sap, very_hardy, hide_long_grass
formation 2.8, 3.5, 3.4, 4.8, 5, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 4, 0, bullet, 224, 30, missile, archery, blunt, none, 15 ,1
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 9, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 0 ,0.04
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 9, 2, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, 2, -1
stat_mental 11, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 990, 248, 40, 60, 990
ownership macedon, thrace, greek_cities, seleucid, numidia, romans_julii, romans_scipii, carthage, dacia

That's funny. I was looking at this:
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type iberian missile slingers
dictionary iberian_missile_slingers ; Iberian Slingers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier african_missile_african_iberian_rhodian_slingers, 30, 0, 0.85
mount_effect horse -2, chariot +2, elephant +1
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, can_sap, very_hardy, hide_long_grass
formation 2.8, 3.5, 3.4, 4.8, 5, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 2, 0, stone, 162.8, 25, missile, archery, blunt, none, 15 ,1
stat_pri_attr ap
stat_sec 7, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 0 ,0.04
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 1, 6, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, 2, 0
stat_mental 8, low, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 532, 133, 40, 60, 532
ownership spain, egypt, slave, britons, gauls, scythia, germans

I was using Ctrl+F in EDU and stumbled upon this abovementioned unit, which I though to be the Rhodian Slingers . That's where I got my 162 range and 25 ammunition from (no I did NOT think that the Rhodians had only 2 attack). I just checked the EDU, and found the real Rhodian Slingers that MerlinusCDXX was talking about. Then what in the world is the real name of the abovenmentioned unit?!? I don't think there are any Iberian slingers in EB.

[Lysimachos]

Trokalobutiam?

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Syrian Archers for the east, they have a good combination of armour, range and melee ability.



Cretan Archers for the west, they fare better in melee, but have a lower armour to my knowledge.



Rhodian Slinger, again the combination of the Syrians: Good armour and range.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Syrian Archers, they have a good combination of armour, range and melee ability. Cretans are better in melee, but have a lower armour I think.

Syrian Archers? Don't they have only 4 missile attack? The purpose of an archer is first and foremost to provide strong missile support and Syrian archers don't have enough attack to effectively do that. Syrian archers are one of the weaker missile units in EB. As for their armour and melee capabilities (which are pretty high for an archer unit), you don't actually throw them into melee, do you? that would seem like a waste of talent to me. There is infantry for that.

In my opinion, they are underrated and the EB team should have given them 5 missile attack.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Syrian Archers? Don't they have only 4 missile attack? The purpose of an archer is first and foremost to provide strong missile support and Syrian archers don't have enough attack to effectively do that. Syrian archers are one of the weaker missile units in EB. As for their armour and melee capabilities (which are pretty high for an archer unit), you don't actually throw them into melee, do you? that would seem like a waste of talent to me. There is infantry for that.

In my opinion, they are underrated and the EB team should have given them 5 missile attack.

I agree, otherwise what's their real usefulness? (especially at their recruit price, which is comparable to the Kretikoi Toxotai)...but you could always change your EDU to give them 5 attack- just make sure you use a text editor like notepad++ (NOT windows notepad, it somehow messes up the formatting and causes CTDs)

Though I've been using them as they are and have had decent results with them, not great but not horrible. Their good armor helps them to survive archer duels, especially against horse archers, which is where they really shine if you're playing the AS (next time you play an AS campaign, try taking a few units out East with your army when you go fight the Pahlavans, you'll see a real difference).

[Ibrahim]

I agree, otherwise what's their real usefulness? (especially at their recruit price, which is comparable to the Kretikoi Toxotai)...but you could always change your EDU to give them 5 attack- just make sure you use a text editor like notepad++ (NOT windows notepad, it somehow messes up the formatting and causes CTDs)

Though I've been using them as they are and have had decent results with them, not great but not horrible. Their good armor helps them to survive archer duels, especially against horse archers, which is where they really shine if you're playing the AS (next time you play an AS campaign, try taking a few units out East with your army when you go fight the Pahlavans, you'll see a real difference).

already took them out east..they ROCK!!!

well, the heavy armor does its work.

[strategos roma]

1.Cretan Archers-long range, good armour, excellent attack.
2.Subeshi Archers-same as above.
3.Pelatasai-easy to hire, cheap and versatile.
4.Balearic Slingers-excellent attack and decent ammo.

[Tollheit]

That's funny.

Your ranges for Iaosatae, Balearics and Accensi are all wrong, as well. Quite peculiar, as Fondor_Yards had already listed the correct values for all three of them in this very thread.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Your ranges for Iaosatae, Balearics and Accensi are all wrong, as well. Quite peculiar, as Fondor_Yards had already listed the correct values for all three of them in this very thread.

Darn! I get what I deserve for using the Online EB units list as a primary source!

[Celtic_Punk]

Cretan archers kick ass. period